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I first discovered the sensational TENET Vocal Artists ensemble through their great 2019 first recording of one of Schmelzer’s passiontide oratorios, Le Memorie Dolorose, together with the very good instrumental ensemble ACRONYM.

Based in NYC, TENET have released some other really good albums with music from the early Baroque. Jolle Greenleaf, who leads the ensemble, and Molly Quinn (the two lovely ladies from the photo) in 2013 released as soprano duo this very beautiful album with pieces mostly by Monteverdi and a few others…

I think they succeed in projecting the joyfulness and sensuality of this music, which was at the time very modern and forward-looking. Monteverdi had freed himself from the formal restraints the old practice had imposed on the Madrigal…

That’s for sure another ensemble I’d love to experience in concert…

I can’t find the album on Qobuz, but it’s available on Tidal…

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Starting to listen now.

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This is easy to listen to. Melodic and interesting. A good introduction for those investigating this type of choral music.

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The one on the right looks like “Root” from “Person of Interest”… :wink:

Rüdiger Lotter, a German violinist and musical director of the Hofkapelle München, has recorded several albums with Baroque chamber music, together with such well-known artists as Dorothee Oberlinger, Christine Schornsheim, Hille Perl and others… Together with harpsichordist Olga Watts he formed the ensemble Lyrisarte, and their output should receive a firm recommendation for those interested in the music of the high Baroque.

On this album, very rarely recorded music by Antonio Veracini (1659-1733), uncle and teacher of the much better known Francesco Maria Veracini (1690-1768), can be heard, flanked by music of the popular nephew… Here, Lotter is being ‘helped’, amongst others, by the good cellist Kristin von der Goltz, the recorder player Dorothee Oberlinger and his partner from Lyriarte, Olga Watts at the harpsichord.

There’s another very good album with Geminiani sonatas, and I especially liked their rendering of the Biber Mystery Sonatas… this is one of the interpretations which I hearted in my library.

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I’ve never listened to Verdi’s requiem.

Recommendations?

Plenty…

https://www.talkclassical.com/threads/verdis-requiem-best-performance-recording.45746/

There are quite a lot of recordings out there which serve completely different tastes. In this case I cannot offer any recommendation of how to take this composition best as from the point of musicology. It is formally heterogeneous and unclear what Verdi was imagining as an ideal interpretation.

It is often quoted that this is the most ´operatic´ sacred composition. That might be true to the amassing of orchestral sounds and demanding roles of the singers, so most of singers specializing in sacred music or ancient music do not feel comfortable to sing it. If you like that operatic, late-romantic approach, you will most probably be happy with Solti´s classic recording or the even more spectacular Muti at the Scala with Studer and Pavarotti (yes, the one with annoying humming, cannot listen to the pianissimi!).

For me personally the rhythmically precise, declamating parts of this composition are as much key to understanding it as the shy, god-fearing pianissimi parts like the ´Ingemisco´ and the famous ´Requiem eternam´ in the ´Libera me´. Which translates to: choir, tenor and soprano are key to a recording really touching me. And not only because of the famous ´stratospheric´ note.

Just judging orchestra, choir and conducting I would go for Gianandrea Noseda and the LSO. Neither tenor nor soprano are really my favorites in this recording, so you have to live with that.

Exemplary soloists, on the other hand, could be found with Barbirolli´s classic recording. Montserrat Caballé and Jon Vickers are ideal, the choir is not and both conducting and recording are a bit off what I what like:

If a puristic sacred music approach would be meeting your expectations, the choice in my understanding is clear: Harnoncourt. A beautiful recording with ideal voices, but less effect-laden and sometimes slow tempi.

And the most balanced recording? Difficult. Pappano would be an option but I find Rolando Villazon not fitting. Gardiner is too close to Harnoncourt´s sacred music approach but not rivaling the latter´s beautiful moments. If you want to satisfy all senses, go for Bychkov, his 3 (!) choirs and exceptionally homogeneous ensemble of soloists:

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now you’ve opened up Pandora’s box (RIP)…

my requiem’s Verdi:

this is a work I know deeply, and have had the pleasure of performing as a soloist on several occasions, including in the Chiesa di San Stefano in Venice. Most recordings are flawed in some aspect, one or more of the soloists, the recording quality, prosaic conducting, etc…

Possibly the most exceptional quartet of soloists (Karajan with Price, Cossotto, Pavarotti, and Ghiaurov, all in their prime, is indifferently recorded, originally meant for video release. the video itself is a very odd experience, filmed in an empty La Scala, with the focus mostly on HVK. for all the passion of the soloists, it’s an impersonal, emotionally flat performance.

Pavarotti’s second recording, with Solti, is probably the one to have if what you care about is Luciano uber alles. His singing is nothing less than glorious. the rest of the quartet (Sutherland, Horne, Tavela) are certainly big names, but the rest of the performance, and the recording itself, is brash, unsubtle, loud…

Luciano’s third recording is one of three Muti recordings, this one with La Scala, and it is certainly very well cast, and sung. but the recording quality is distant, which saps some energy from the home audio experience.

Muti’s BRSO recording, recorded in the 80s, but only recently released, is very good, and overlaps somewhat with his first commercial recording (see below). I love Carreras, but he sounds strained here (others may hear it differently). Nesterenko does well, but to my ear is better in the first Muti recording…

…which is also my first recommendation, with the Philharmonia. In its first incarnation it was very harsh and bright, but remastered (and in MQA, if you care/dare, it is exceptional, as is the solo quartet. Luchetti is not Luciano, but he sings in beautiful, plangent tones, and Nesterenko has the appropriate line and weight. The two women also sing with appropriate passion and ardor.

…but it is to the unlikely source of Robert Shaw, the Atlanta Symphony, and Telarc that we must turn to for the most universally recommendable Verdi Requiem. Shaw was a pupil, chorus master for, and collaborator of Toscanini, and it shows. Susan Dunn is spectacular as the soprano soloist (she recorded far too little), and Paul Plishka (who has multiple Verdi Requiems of his own) is at his best here. But it is Jerry Hadley, sadly no longer with us, who elevates the entire performance. Passionate, ardent, beseeching, in glorious open tones…

…and Telarc’s recoding is open, clear, dynamic, and allows us to hear Shaw and the Atlanta Symphony and Chorus at their fullest.

Start here.

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They also hav a glorious version of the Orff Carmina Burana… possibly underrated, but glorious…

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agreed.

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Thanks for your takes and the recommendation of Robert Shaw’s version which I have not listened to for years. Will give it a try.

We are talking about this one?

In is indeed very good, very precise choir, and I like Carreras here. Muti will not make it to my personal favorites because many parts give the impression everything is intensionally dramatic and most of personnel pushed to the limits. Even Norman is sounding overly operatic, thereby a bit missing the beauty of the shy pianissimo passages. Everything seems to be in ´Italian style´, ´con emozione´, over the top, if you want (Apology to all Italians for this cliché!). If you want the requiem to sound like a Verdi opera on stage with emotions, suffering and exhaustion, but more precision than Muti´s La Scala attempt - it is perfect.

The Philharmonia version is more balanced in this regard but I do not like Renata Scotto´s vibrato-laden messa-di-voce-style of singing longer notes relying overly on glissandi between them where there should be none. And the choir is also giving an impression of feeling uncomfortable with this style of singing.

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For our Harpsichord enthusiasts!

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Jakob Lindberg is a well-respected lutenist, known above all for his magnificent lute, made by Sixtus Rauwolf around 1590 in Augsburg, Germany.

Even if today’s release with solo theorbo music by Robert de Visée is a perfect late-night listen, for the music’s calmness and soothing elegance, I couldn’t wait to put it on, and it’s definitely most beautiful at every hour of the day… I love listening to the theorbo, possibly even more so than the lute, both as plucked instrument in a Baroque continuo accompaniment and as solo instrument… A wonderful release…

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Lovely indeed, as is the whole album. This is an album with premiere recordings of concerts by largely unknown and forgotten composers, and it’s worthwhile to have a look at the booklet notes, where the composers, their time at the Prussian court and the recorded music is being introduced.

Johannes Pramsohler and Ensemble Diderot have amassed an amazing discography with an abundance of riches… Pramsohler’s early decision to set up his own label, freeing himself from commercial pressures by bigger classical labels, has paid off handsomely…

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I am a huge, yuge, fan of the young Carreras, but I find his singing here too effortful above the stave. there are some lovely moments to be sure, but the end of the Ingemisco is shouty and unpleasant.

Nesterenko is impressive, it’s a magnificent voice, but he occasionally sounds pinched and constipated; he’s better served on the studio version.

There’s another version worth considering, Karajan’s early 70s Berlin version with Freni, Christa Ludwig, Carlo Cossutta, and Ghiaurov. It’s been remastered as part of DG’s Original Source series on vinyl, and sounds magnificent, and the singing is uniformly splendid. Cossutta deserved to have a bigger recording career.

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Many thanks. Listening right now. Beautiful music. Pairs well with a glass of red.

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One of my favorites! :+1:

Controversial cycle but I like the modern interpretation and sound quality.

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JoAnn Falletta was the Music Director and conductor of our local symphony, Virginia Symphony, from 1991 to 2020. I enjoyed so many great performances during that time. She is definitely missed!

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