Hi, in another conversation, Roon staff suggested the Crucial DDR4 2666 MHz CL19 2 as suitable RAM modules for memory upgrade. However, Crucial‘s website shows this family of modules as discontinued. The current product line apparently is the DDR4 3200 MHz CL22, hence higher speed and difference CASLatency. Will these also work?
And does it make any difference whether using a single rank or dual rank configuration (i.e. 1x 32GB vs. 2x 16 GB)? Thank you.
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Faster memory will work fine, although of course provide no extra benefit.
The nuc has dual memory channels - so it’s better to use two smaller modules rather than one larger module.
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And be amazed at the price jumps in the US. The 16 GB set of DDR5 Crucial memory I got in the beginning of Oct has now tripled in price.
I finally upgraded the Nucleus Titan from the stock 2x 4GB = 8GB to 2x 16GB = 32GB for a library of >115,000 tracks. Massive improvement in reactivity and UI fluidity. Highly recommended.
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Crucial has ceased selling consumer products, so existing stock may have a premium. However, Roon needs to suggest alternatives.
I ordered these modules and they work just fine: Kingston Technology 16GB DDR4-3200MHZ NON-ECC CL22 SODIMM 1RX8 (KVR32S22S8/16)
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125 USD on Amazon ??!! I bought similar from Crucial in May of last year for 28 USD.
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But aren’t you happy that Elon will shoot Ai data centers into space? 
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I live in Europe, so this is not about price level comparisons. The Kingston modules were what I found in the factory stock version of the Titan. To play it safe, I wanted to use the same modules, just with larger capacity. That’s what I did. And I am very pleased with the result.
Sure, that works. To play it safe though, you should really consult the motherboard RAM compatibility chart, in case you need to switch manufacturers.
The modules I purchased and use are as much in line with the Roonlabs help page ( Nucleus SSD/RAM Upgrades) as they possibly can be, given that the listed Crucial modules are not available any more. And - as I said - they are identical to the modules that came with the Titan apart from the memory capacity. To me this was safe enough. The ones originally shipped were Kingston KVR32S22S6/4.
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I had a quote for a new desktop which at the timeI didn’t do . The same quote 6 months later the RAM portion had gone x4
I still haven’t done it but I doubt it will come down
I suppose SSD’s are in the same boat ?
Yup - prices of RAM and SSD have shot up enormously in the past 6 months. Supply and demand strikes again. AI data centres have a lot to answer for.
Just built a new NUC for a friend - the 16GB RAM cost me €150 - the same module was €35 a year ago.
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@Akio_Ito I upgraded to 64GB of Apacer Wide-Temp Industrial RAM in my Titan (32GB x2) of the correct spec back in mid 2024. With ~1800 albums and ~24,000 songs (a mix of SATA SSD library and Qobuz).
I, too, experienced a massive increase in responsiveness and ‘liquidity of the UI’. Where I was once experiencing regular stutters and pauses as I wandered through my library, those have basically disappeared at this point. Despite my longest uptime being well more than a month between restarts.
This is way over the top for Roon, and your modest library. The vast majority of this memory will not be used … ever. Indeed 16 GB would be more than adequate.
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And yet it made a huge, objective improvement in the UI.
Well, that was nothing to do with adding 64 GB. You may have noticed that by doubling the original 8 GB.
The Roon OS will need around a GB, and your database, which is loaded into memory, a few GB. Moreover, when Roon OS runs out of memory, it will simply crash.
I currently have a similarly sized library, and Roon is currently running on 2.75 / 64 GB on my server. It’s a very snappy experience.
I’m posting this because such an upgrade is poor advice and unnecessary.
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It’s not poor advice. It’s just overkill.
EDIT: Oh and you may notice that I’m not disagreeing with all of your finer points. E.g. that 16GB may have brought the same or similar results,
But the Apacer RAM was peculiarly priced at the time I bought it and the 32GB DIMMs were functionally the same price as the 8GB from the vendor of purchase.
There’s certainly no downside to going with larger capacity DIMMs as these Apacer 32GB DIMMs have been measured to generate fewer refresh cycles than 8GB Crucial DIMMs, and they consume only fractionally more current.
For a less than 3% price differential, there’s no downside to killing a fly with a sledgehammer.
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I’ll let others judge.
Theory vs reality. Indeed others will judge.
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