Roon Remotes cannot connect to server post-build 1560 update (ref#3YIJKP)

Is Roon Server running?

· Yes, Roon Server is turned on and running.

What do you see on your screen?

· I see something else

When you try to connect, what screen do you see?

· I see the Server but the Connect button is grayed out

Please try to restart your network setup by unplugging, waiting 30 seconds and then replugging in your networking gear.

· No, the issue remains the same

Please select how you've connected your Roon Server to the internet

· Roon Server is connected by *Ethernet*

Have you checked your firewall settings to ensure that Roon is allowed through?

· Roon still won't connect even after checking this aspect

Have you verified that Roon Server is on the same subnet as your Remotes?

· My Remotes and Server are on the same subnet and I still can't connect

Sometimes the issues can be resolved with a reinstall of your Roon Remote app. Let's try to perform a reinstall and see if it helps.

· I've reinstalled the Roon Remote but it did not help

What is the operating system of your Roon Server host machine?

· *MacOS*

Select any of the following components that are present in your local network setup

· *VPN* installed on RoonServer or Roon Remotes

You mentioned a VPN. Have you tried disabling it?

· I tried disabling my VPN/proxy connection and Roon still won't connect

Describe the issue

After upgrade to build 1560, no Roon Remote can connect; however, server can connect to speakers on remotes

Describe your network setup

Verizon FiOS, Verizon router, Tailscale, ControlD DNS

This happens from every remote I’ve tested, on MacOS Tahoe, Sequoia, and iOS.

Good day @Neil_Carpenter !

macOS Sequoia (version 15), has tighter (and more obfuscated) network security settings than preceding MacOS versions.

Can you please navigate to macOS System Settings > Privacy & Security > Local Network, and make sure Roon and Roon Server are allowed.

If it is already enabled, toggle it off and on again. Then reboot your Mac, and see if the same issue persists.

Could you please also clarify for us whether you have one local network or whether all devices are in the same subnet ?

P.S. for the macos Tahoe we do recommend to run Roon via Rosetta until next release if you experience critical issues.

You can enable it in Application folders by going to “Get Info” for Roon App and ticking “open using Rosetta” checkbox.

Looking forward to your reply!

It was already enabled and this was working before the last update to Roon. But, sure, I’ve toggled it off and on again with precisely the same outcome.

That was answered above but, to repeat: “My Remotes and Server are on the same subnet and I still can’t connect”

The server is running on Sequoia. Clients are on Sequoia, Tahoe, and iOS.

@alex_h An additional observation – if I restart Roon Server, I’m able to connect for a short period of time (<15 minutes) before my remotes get kicked off and return to the red dot/“Connecting…”.

Fair to say this is not an issue with network permissions as those would be enforced continuously.

Hello @Neil_Carpenter ,

Thanks for confirming that the server works for some time before the issue occurs. I’ve activated diagnostics for your account and I see that you Roon has quite a few IP addresses from several networking interfaces. Can you please confirm if you temporarily disable most and leave just one active one, does the issue still occur?

What would the number of interfaces or assigned IP addresses have to do with anything? This Mac does more than just serving Roon and disabling the interfaces is impractical – please provide real troubleshooting steps instead of just guessing at something.

As a reminder, a few weeks ago, I didn’t see any connection problems. The most obvious thing that’s changed is the Roon build.

Hi @Neil_Carpenter,

I understand your frustration, and I want to reassure you that we’re not guessing here. The request to temporarily disable extra interfaces is a standard troubleshooting step to help us isolate whether the multiple IP addresses are contributing to the issue. From the diagnostics we reviewed, your Roon Server is reporting a significant number of network interfaces/IPs, and in some environments, this can cause connectivity issues with discovery and communication across devices.

We realize your Mac serves multiple purposes and that disabling interfaces long-term isn’t practical. The goal here is simply to test with just one active interface, even briefly, so we can either rule out or confirm this as a factor. If the issue persists with only one interface active, then we can confidently look elsewhere without ambiguity.

I’d also like to kindly ask that we keep the tone constructive; we’re on the same team here, and our intent is to help get your system stable again as quickly as possible. :folded_hands:

Would you be able to give the single-interface test a try, even for a short period, and let us know what you observe? That result will give us a much clearer path forward.

I know you’ve already reviewed your mac firewall - have you tried completely disabling it temporarily, and rebooting your devices afterward?

With that, we’re seeing some errors that are potentially pointing to the legacy version of Roon 1.8 - do you have Roon 1.8 installed currently?

Thanks Neil, we’ll be monitoring for your reply! :raising_hands:

Given that not all of the interfaces are physical devices, this would be a complex undertaking.

But, I decided to take a look at the route table. Your assertion that multiple interfaces could somehow be a factor only makes sense if there are routes on different interfaces for the actual subnet where my remotes live (192.168.0.0/22).

And there were two routes for this subnet but one of them was a Tailscale subnet route. This configuration has been stable for ages and worked fine with Roon up until a recent build; however, in the spirit of troubleshooting, I turned off subnet routes in the Tailscale client on the Roon server and, now, connectivity with remotes seems to be stable.

Of course, this breaks site-to-site connectivity for other things.

What changed in Roon that this formerly functional, stable network configuration no longer works for remote connectivity? How do I fix this?

Good day @Neil_Carpenter !

I hope you’re doing well.

We are glad that you were able to figure the root cause out.

Recent Roon update did not have major connectivity updates so it is not likely related to it.

However, in the past we had similar threads where subnet router functionality caused caused connection issues for Roon.

In this case we do recommend you to contact TailScale support so they can advise you on how to set it up safely so it does not interfere with already running local services.

Have a nice day!

Regards.

I didn’t figure out the root cause, though. I figured out a workaround.

This configuration has been stable and functional for quite awhile. Nothing else has an issue – Roon is the only thing having an issue and that is a recent change.

Good day @Neil_Carpenter !

We can see that you have enrolled your Roon to the Early access program.

We would recommend you to leave early access and try to test your connections again.

Here you can find the instruction on how to go back to production:

let us know please how it goes on production!

Regards.

If you believe the Early Access build is the problem, then there’s a change in Early Access that may be responsible.

What changed?

Good day @Neil_Carpenter !

We are not exactly sure what is the problem root cause and in order to confirm that the problem is with early access build we do recommend you to go back to production build.

There are plenty of variables that we should conclude and narrowing it down by going to the production build is going to help.

let us know please whether it is suitable for you.

Regards.

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