# Roon search extremely slow - how to fix it? BUILD 1353 **URL:** \ **Category:** Support\ **Created:** [November 18, 2023, 8:43pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474 "2023-11-18T20:43:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Michael\_Harris](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/michael_harris/32/208975_2.png) [@Michael\_Harris](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Michael_Harris)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 11:06pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/22 "2023-11-19T23:06:01Z")
This has happened in the past when some of the Roon cloud servers have failed over the weekend and there is no one at home to fix it. The server’s are regional from memory so it might depend which if any server’s require a restart or similar. I started seeing this issue this morning, but sometime a search is fast and other times it takes 7-10 seconds before it comes to life. ---
**Author:** ![David\_Kuo](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/david_kuo/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@David\_Kuo](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/David_Kuo)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 11:30pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/23 "2023-11-19T23:30:07Z")
Same issue here. The search is a bit slower. And the “Waiting for Roon server” keeps popping up after the update. Roon updates used to be bulletproof. I hope maybe it has to do with lots of people trying to download the update. Hopefully this situation eases later on, or a new patch comes out soon. ---
**Author:** ![tripleCrotchet](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/triplecrotchet/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@tripleCrotchet](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/tripleCrotchet)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/24 "2023-11-20T01:08:48Z")
Multiple threads appearing: > [@Various iPhone/iPad connection issues after latest build (1352) \[Investigating\]](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/various-iphone-ipad-connection-issues-after-latest-build-1352/256589): > > Roon Core Machine iMac, 3.1 GHz 6-Core Intel i5, 40GB RAM Networking Gear & Setup Details Linksys WiFi Raspberry Pi 4, 4GB Apple TV Connected Audio Devices Cambridge Audio CXA81 via USB to the Raspberry Pi Cambridge AudioMagic 200 via Apple TV Number of Tracks in Library ~20,000 Description of the issue I updated my iPhone, iPad, and Roon Core (Server) on Friday to the latest builds. Since then, I’ve been running into the following issues: The app sometimes says “Waiting for your R… ---
**Author:** ![David\_Gibson](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/david_gibson/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@David\_Gibson](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/David_Gibson)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/25 "2023-11-20T01:16:53Z")
I feel bad for Roon sometimes. My system was not affected but clearly many are experiencing slow downs. I always hate trying to fix problems that affect some but not others. Hopefully there’s a common cause and it’ll be sorted quickly. Hopefully the fix won’t mess the rest of us up 😱 ---
**Author:** ![Douglas\_Henning](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/douglas_henning/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Douglas\_Henning](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Douglas_Henning)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/26 "2023-11-20T03:16:10Z")
Same issue, since 1353, which is very disappointing. The search performance on 1303 was excellent. It is surprising that it was not identified in testing. Its not just this weekend. It featured precisely from the last update and has been consistently poor. ---
**Author:** ![Sombre23](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/sombre23/32/100904_2.png) [@Sombre23](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Sombre23)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 8:25am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/27 "2023-11-20T08:25:59Z")
Confirm with the above comments since the latest update its all gone buggy, slow (Layman Dept) and Malwarebytes is constantly blocking the Roon Windows 11 app now, it was excluded before. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Friberg](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/martin_friberg/32/64691_2.png) [@Martin\_Friberg](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Martin_Friberg)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 9:20am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/28 "2023-11-20T09:20:37Z")
Haven’t found the search any slower or worse since the last upgrade, but the loading of the results when selecting an artist, or an album, so more navigating Roon. And I also have the “waiting for roon core” when switching to the iPhone app after having it in the background appearing very frequent. ---
**Author:** ![Ronny](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/ronny/32/279876_2.png) [@Ronny](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Ronny)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/29 "2023-11-20T17:56:25Z")
Is there any feedback from the supportteam? Or is it just for talking about some observations? Is roon aware of the bug? ---
**Author:** ![Zenit](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/zenit/32/172780_2.png) [@Zenit](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Zenit)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/30 "2023-11-20T18:46:16Z")
This seems to be related to searches with fairly large libraries and the last update. In the meantime, if you can temporarily disable some larger parts of the 600k library it should speed things up. ---
**Author:** ![Ronny](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/ronny/32/279876_2.png) [@Ronny](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Ronny)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/31 "2023-11-20T19:05:16Z")
Thanks for feedback Just for info - My library has only 305k ---
**Author:** ![Hans\_Van\_Rafelghem](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/hans_van_rafelghem/32/75310_2.png) [@Hans\_Van\_Rafelghem](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Hans_Van_Rafelghem)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/32 "2023-11-20T21:30:21Z")
Same problem here, nothing to do with library since same happens with Tidal searches. ---
**Author:** ![Jens\_Lagerqvist](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/jens_lagerqvist/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Jens\_Lagerqvist](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Jens_Lagerqvist)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 9:51pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/33 "2023-11-20T21:51:29Z")
The search part is a minor problem on my end, yes it’s really slow after the update. Constant stop of music play when I wanna see the queued tracks on a playlist is major though. And the endless ”looking for roon core” when it happens. Again not a single problem before this update. I’m in Sweden if it’s some regional problem ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_Kroker](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/chris_kroker/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Chris\_Kroker](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Chris_Kroker)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/34 "2023-11-20T21:58:31Z")
The slow down is actually real and really a pain in the ass - makes Roon unusable for me atm. 500k library located in the EU… ---
**Author:** ![Luso](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/luso/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Luso](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Luso)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2023, 11:35pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/35 "2023-11-20T23:35:13Z")
Same issues here. It’s incredibly slow at times. 84k tracks library, local files,Tidal and Qobuz subscriptions, located in the EU. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Phang](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/john_phang/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@John\_Phang](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/John_Phang)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 1:17am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/37 "2023-11-21T01:17:13Z")
Seems to be resolved now, at least for me here. Response is now comparable to using the same streaming services outside Roon. Win 10 laptop, 99k library, Asia. ---
**Author:** ![Duncan\_Andison](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/duncan_andison/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Duncan\_Andison](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Duncan_Andison)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 7:16am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/39 "2023-11-21T07:16:35Z")
Same problem here. Library is only 40k and it’s a drag. I’ve cleaned image cache as well as running library maintenance and of course rebooting. I was waiting 10-20 seconds per song first thing this morning. Worst update I’ve seen from Roon. Hope they sort it out soon. Edit - Roon Rock NUC, 480gb Drive, 1TB internal storage, 8gb Ram files stored locally and from Qobuz. Software all current and everything hardwired. ---
**Author:** ![Arindal](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/arindal/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Arindal](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Arindal)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 8:23am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/40 "2023-11-21T08:23:41Z")
I was experiencing similarly delayed search in recent days as well as my MacBook disappearing as an audio zone frequently. > [@John\_Phang](#): > > Seems to be resolved now, at least for me here. Since this morning, it appears to be more or less resolved here in the EU as well. Core library 75k, running roon on a silent Qnap. I noticed one interesting thing: Queries containing a keyword like ´Mozart´, ´McCartney´ or `Bach´ with a zillion of references in my library still seem to be slower than they used to be. Same is true to the composition list of a specific composer with a vast oeuvre of composition and associated recordings like Franz Schubert in my case. As I use the composition lists a lot. Them being slow was the main reason for me to cut down my core library to 75k as the whole thing with well over double the number of tracks got inconvenient before already (as well as me being lazy to tag the rest which I almost never listen to anyway). ---
**Author:** ![Jens\_Lagerqvist](https://community.roonlabs.com/letter_avatar/jens_lagerqvist/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Jens\_Lagerqvist](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Jens_Lagerqvist)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 8:34am UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/41 "2023-11-21T08:34:16Z")
Yes, now Roon seems to be running smooth again! 🥳 ---
**Author:** ![Aquarius\_M\_Taurus](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/aquarius_m_taurus/32/79487_2.png) [@Aquarius\_M\_Taurus](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Aquarius_M_Taurus)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 12:50pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/42 "2023-11-21T12:50:24Z")
OK still have this problem, but the speed is varying between 5 - 10 sec and 30 sec which is unacceptable After the update I completely shutdown the system and rebooted. This made the issue little bit better as I could not get any response before that at all and not us e the system anymore for hours. **Configuration:** Roon Nucleus 5,120 albums, 76,727 tracks, most of them are from Qobuz (approx. 4,200 albums) I am observing this behavior in the meantime after each update that is changing database structure. ---
**Author:** ![Zenit](https://community.roonlabs.com/user_avatar/community.roonlabs.com/zenit/32/172780_2.png) [@Zenit](https://community.roonlabs.com/u/Zenit)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2023, 3:53pm UTC](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474/43 "2023-11-21T15:53:01Z")
We have temporarily disabled some features, which should help mitigate some of the performance issues. Please restart your server (this one might take 2 restarts to take effect). Let me know if it helps / or doesn’t. [Previous page](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.roonlabs.com/t/roon-search-extremely-slow-how-to-fix-it-build-1353/256474.md?page=3)