RoonReady RAAT High Resolution Playback Problem [Solved]

I’m sending audio from Roon to RoonReady devices from Sonore (Sonicorbiter SE) and Auralic (Aries), but I experience consistent problems with 24/192 and 24/176.4 content.

When playing 192 content to the Aries and the Sonicorbiter SE (separately, not grouped), the audio gets staticky at 19 seconds into the track and stops playing at 20 seconds. Every time without fail. I’ve tried two different RoonServers running on two different Windows computers and one version of Roon installed on a MacBook Pro.

When playing 24/176.4 content the music gets staticky about 1:35 into the tracks and stops playing at 1:40. This happens with all 176.4 content streaming to both the Aries and Sonicorbiter SE (separately, not grouped).

I’m running RoonServer on a 3.5GHz Xeon Windows 8.1 machine with 16 GB of RAM, RoonServer on an SOtM SMS-1000SQ WE server, and Roon on a MacBook Pro running El Capitan with 8GB of RAM.

There doesn’t appear to be anything wrong with my network because I can stream the identical music (176.4 and 192) to the Aries via UPnP using MinimServer running on the same computers, without a single dropout.

I’ve connected two different USB DACs to the Sonicorbiter SE, and I’m using the coaxial digital output of the Aries.

The Aires is connected to my 802.11n/ac 5GHz network and the Sonicorbiter SE is connected to wired Ethernet.

I’m at a loss as to what’s causing the issue.

I’ve had the same problem with 24/192 files on an SOSE. Never noticed at what time the track stopped but can note that it was always early in playback and would quit abruptly after a few seconds of playing fine.

Thanks guys, that’s a really helpful description Chris. Let’s drop a flag for @brian and see if he can replicate this.

We’ve done long-running playback tests with both devices and content with higher resolution than this. I’m surprised to hear that you’re having trouble with 192k.

First thing to confirm: all software/firmware up to date? Aries should be on firmware 3.1, SonicOrbiter SE should show version 1.0.11 in Apps->RoonReady, and your Roon server should be on 1.1 (build 102).

The problem description screams “networking issue” to me. UPnP and RAAT are different enough under the hood that the fact that UPnP is OK doesn’t necessarily eliminate the network. RAAT is based on UDP and UPnP is all TCP. UDP is more “bare metal” and lets us do better with flow control and clock management, but implementing at a lower level exposes us more directly to poor or broken networks (especially networks with bad switches).

Can you describe your network layout in a little bit more detail, including any switches/routers, how each device (including computers and NAS if applicable) are connected?

Also, one more question, when playback stops, is the seek bar still moving in Roon?

@vova, please collect logs and bring them to my attention. The logs will help us eliminate other classes of performance issues.

Hi @brian and @vova - Thanks for the quick response. I’m in the middle of writing an article on RoonReady with the Sonicorbiter SE, so I appreciate your help.

All software is up to date and at the versions you specified above.

I agree the problem screams “networking issue.” As a former network admin for Fortune 500 companies, I’m having a hard time trying to find a reason why this isn’t a network issue. But, I’ve built a really solid network that is working great with everything else.

In fact, I just ran a test using the identical switch ports and cables as the Sonicorbiter SE, and I can send 192 audio to my iMac (private zone) without an issue. Music from the same RoonServer and traversing the same network cables and switches etc… As soon as I plug in the Aries or Sonicorbiter SE to the same cable, 192 doesn’t work and stops at 20 seconds.

When the music stops at 20 seconds, the seek bar is still moving in the Roon GUI.

A little bit about my network:

Windows based network storage with 3.5 GHz Xeon, 16 GB RAM, dual NICs, hardware RAID crd etc… > connected to Cisco SG200-26 26-Port Gigabit Smart / Managed Switch > Sonicorbiter SE connected directly to this switch. Cabling is CAT6 / CAT7. Switch firmware was updated last night in an attempt to resolve the issue as well.

RoonServer runs on the Windows machine mentioned above. I’ve tried link aggregation with the dual NICs, but ran into weird problems with UPnP, so right now I have tried running two separate NICs and disabling one of them while troubleshooting this issue. Nothing seems to help.

One other item, here is the diag directly from the Sonicorbiter SE. It’s screaming “dropout”

RoonReady Diagnostic information BACK to Menu
02/26/2016 10:12:44 - ------------------------------------------------------------
02/26/2016 10:12:44 - /opt/RoonReady/raatool logdump fe0bc93f-1c1f-48ff-b23a-c2507318a91b
[0000000] 0.005 TRACE [info] initializing info dictionary
[0000001] 0.005 TRACE [info] inserting raat_version -> 1.0.11
[0000002] 0.005 TRACE [info] inserting protocol_version -> 3
[0000003] 0.013 TRACE [ALSA] initializing output uniqueid=hw:1,0
[0000004] 0.013 TRACE [ALSA] preferred buffer duration=0.100000s
[0000005] 0.013 TRACE [ALSA] resync delay=0.100000s
[0000006] 0.013 TRACE [ALSA] max dsd rate=128
[0000007] 0.013 TRACE [ALSA] dsd_mode=native_or_dop
[0000008] 0.013 TRACE [output/alsa] getting hardware info
[0000009] 0.014 TRACE pcm card id M20
[0000010] 0.014 TRACE pcm card name Meitner USB Audio 2.0
[0000011] 0.014 TRACE pcm card longname Meitner Meitner USB Audio 2.0 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1, high speed
[0000012] 0.014 TRACE pcm card mixername USB Mixer
[0000013] 0.014 TRACE pcm card components USB20b1:0002
[0000014] 0.014 TRACE pcm card driver USB-Audio
[0000015] 0.014 TRACE pcm card usb id 20b1:0002
[0000016] 0.014 TRACE [output/alsa] probing formats
[0000017] 0.015 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] probing formats
[0000018] 0.016 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 44100/16/2
[0000019] 0.016 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 44100/24/2
[0000020] 0.016 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 44100/32/2
[0000021] 0.016 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 48000/16/2
[0000022] 0.016 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 48000/24/2
[0000023] 0.016 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 48000/32/2
[0000024] 0.016 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 88200/16/2
[0000025] 0.016 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 88200/24/2
[0000026] 0.016 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 88200/32/2
[0000027] 0.016 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 96000/16/2
[0000028] 0.016 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 96000/24/2
[0000029] 0.016 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 96000/32/2
[0000030] 0.017 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 176400/16/2
[0000031] 0.017 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 176400/24/2
[0000032] 0.017 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports DSD format 2822400/1/2 (Encapsulated)
[0000033] 0.017 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 176400/32/2
[0000034] 0.017 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 192000/16/2
[0000035] 0.017 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 192000/24/2
[0000036] 0.017 TRACE [alsa] [hw:1,0] supports PCM format 192000/32/2
[0000037] 0.017 TRACE [output/alsa] initialized
[0000038] 0.017 TRACE [volume/null] initialized
[0000039] 0.017 TRACE [watch/alsa] initializing watch device=hw:1 exit_on_lost=1
[0000040] 0.017 TRACE [watch/alsa] initialized
[0000041] 0.017 TRACE [info] inserting unique_id -> fe0bc93f-1c1f-48ff-b23a-c2507318a91b
[0000042] 0.017 TRACE [info] inserting vendor -> Sonore
[0000043] 0.017 TRACE [info] inserting output_name -> USB DAC
[0000044] 0.017 TRACE [info] inserting serial -> 008A9D
[0000045] 0.018 TRACE [info] inserting model -> Sonicorbiter SE
[0000046] 0.018 TRACE [info] inserting version -> 1.0.11
[0000047] 0.018 INFO [server] listening on port 41307
[0000048] 0.018 INFO [discovery] unicast socket is bound to 0.0.0.0:42931
[0000049] 0.018 INFO [discovery] multicast socket is bound to 0.0.0.0:11043
[0000050] 0.018 TRACE [device] announcing DiscoveryMessage[type=QUERY, transactionid=27A4104A-ECED-4CBC-5C75-7C01C4C796B9, Data={ “unique_id”: “fe0bc93f-1c1f-48ff-b23a-c2507318a91b”, “raat_version”: “1.0.11”, “vendor”: “Sonore”, “protocol_version”: “3”, “serial”: “008A9D”, “output_name”: “USB DAC”, “version”: “1.0.11”, “model”: “Sonicorbiter SE”, “service_id”: “5e2042ad-9bc5-4508-be92-ff68f19bdc93”, “tcp_port”: “41307”, } ]
[0000051] 0.031 TRACE [server] [10.0.1.69:25792] accepted connection
[0000052] 0.040 TRACE [session] [10.0.1.69:25792] starting
[0000053] 0.040 TRACE [session] [10.0.1.69:25792] [internal] executing lua script
[0000054] 0.046 TRACE [session] [10.0.1.69:25792] [internal] executing lua script
[0000055] 0.046 TRACE [session] [10.0.1.69:25792] created
[0000066] 33353.844 TRACE [server] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT[LL] [2] {“status”: “Success”}
[0000067] 33353.846 TRACE [server] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT[LL] [3] {“status”: “Success”}
[0000068] 33354.161 TRACE [server] [10.0.1.69:25792] GOT[LL] [4] {“request”:“load_script”,“sha256”:“foo”,“script”:"local base = require(“base”)\nlocal protocol = require(“protocol”)\nlocal json = require(“dkjson”)\n\nlocal roon = { }\n\nlocal clock_sock\nlocal audio_sock\n\nlocal clock_endpoint\nlocal audio_endpoint\nlocal controls_subscriptions = { }\nlocal transport_subscriptions = { }\n\nlocal IDLE = “IDLE”\nlocal SETUP = “SETUP”\nlocal BUFFERING = “BUFFERING”\nlocal PLAYING = “PLAYING”\nlocal STOPPED = “STOPPED”\n\nlocal CLOCK_SYNC_ITERATIONS = 5\n\n-- the current playback info\n-- { \n-- stream = stream\n-- token = opaque\n-- setup_cx = request context\n-- stream_cx = request context\n-- format = { … }\n-- state = IDLE | SETUP | BUFFERING | PLAYING | STOPPED\n-- nak_port = number\n-- stream_id = number\n-- start_time = number\n-- start_stream_samp
[0000069] 33354.163 TRACE [server] new script with name=roon.lua module=(null)
[0000070] 33354.163 TRACE [session] [10.0.1.69:25792] executing lua script
[0000071] 33354.194 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] clock socket listening on udp 0.0.0.0:43855
[0000072] 33354.194 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] audio socket listening on udp 0.0.0.0:46662
[0000073] 33354.194 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] output info {“alsa_device”: {“id”: “M20”, “mixername”: “USB Mixer”, “name”: “Meitner USB Audio 2.0”, “driver”: “USB-Audio”, “longname”: “Meitner Meitner USB Audio 2.0 at usb-ci_hdrc.1-1, high speed”, “usbid”: “20b1:0002”, “components”: “M20”}}
[0000074] 33354.194 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] volume info {}
[0000075] 33354.194 TRACE [server] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT[LL] [4] {“status”: “Success”}
[0000076] 33354.196 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] GOT [2] {“request”:“info”}
[0000077] 33354.213 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT [2] {“output”:{“supported_formats”:[{“sample_rate”:44100,“channels”:2,“bits_per_sample”:16,“sample_type”:“pcm”},{“sample_rate”:44100,“channels”:2,“bits_per_sample”:24,“sample_type”:“pcm”},{“sample_rate”:44100,“channels”:2,“bits_per_sample”:32,“sample_type”:“pcm”},{“sample_rate”:48000,“channels”:2,“bits_per_sample”:16,“sample_type”:“pcm”},{“sample_rate”:48000,“channels”:2,“bits_per_sample”:24,“sample_type”:“pcm”},{“sample_rate”:48000,“channels”:2,“bits_per_sample”:32,“sample_type”:“pcm”},{“sample_rate”:88200,“channels”:2,“bits_per_sample”:16,“sample_type”:“pcm”},{“sample_rate”:88200,“channels”:2,“bits_per_sample”:24,“sample_type”:“pcm”},{“sample_rate”:88200,“channels”:2,“bits_per_sample”:32,“sample_type”:“pcm”},{“sample_rate”:96000,“channels”:2,“bits_per_sample”:16,“sample_type”:“pcm”},{“sample_rate”:96000,“channels”:2,“bits_per_sample”:24,“sample_type”:“pcm”},{“sample_rate”:96000,“channels”:2,“bits_per_sample”:32,“sample_type”:“pcm”},{“sample_rate”:176400,“channels”:2,"b
[0000078] 33354.215 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] GOT [3] {“request”:“subscribe_transport”}
[0000079] 33354.216 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] GOT [4] {“request”:“subscribe_controls”}
[0000080] 33354.218 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT [4] {“controls”:{“volume”:{“min”:0.0,“type”:“none”,“max”:0.0,“info”:{},“mute”:false,“value”:0.0}},“action”:“Changed”,“status”:“Success”}
[0000081] 33372.601 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] GOT [5] {“request”:“setup”,“format”:{“sample_type”:“pcm”,“sample_rate”:192000,“bits_per_sample”:24,“channels”:2}}
[0000082] 33372.601 TRACE alsa output setup: format is pcm 192000/24/2
[0000083] 33372.601 TRACE opening [hw:1,0] 192000/24/2
[0000084] 33372.603 TRACE prefer larger samples = 0
[0000085] 33372.603 TRACE [ALSA] [hw:1,0] using hw pcmformat S32_LE bitspersample 24
[0000086] 33372.603 TRACE [ALSA] [hw:1,0] Requesting 19200 frames/period
[0000087] 33372.603 TRACE [ALSA] [hw:1,0] Initialized with 4 periods with 19200 frames/period
[0000088] 33372.609 TRACE sched_setscheduler succeeded
[0000089] 33372.610 TRACE samples per buf 19200 ns per buf 100000000 samplerate 192000
[0000090] 33372.610 TRACE 19200 samples per buf, 115200 bytes per buf, 153600 bytes per hwbuf
[0000091] 33372.610 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] got output message {“signal_path”: [{“quality”: “lossless”, “type”: “output”, “method”: “usb”}]}
[0000092] 33372.610 TRACE [output/alsa] [hw:1,0] waiting for device to be ready
[0000093] 33372.610 TRACE [output/alsa] [hw:1,0] device is ready
[0000094] 33372.612 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT [5] {“message”:{“signal_path”:[{“method”:“usb”,“type”:“output”,“quality”:“lossless”}]},“status”:“OutputMessage”}
[0000095] 33372.616 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT [5] {“clock_port”:43855,“audio_port”:46662,“status”:“Success”}
[0000096] 33372.692 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=170978000 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000097] 33372.708 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=187081334 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000098] 33372.723 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=199757333 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000099] 33372.739 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=215643667 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000100] 33372.754 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=231288667 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000101] 33372.756 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] GOT [6] {“request”:“stream”,“stream_id”:32439450,“first_seq”:0,“nak_port”:58201}
[0000102] 33372.757 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] start streaming first_seq=0 (was nil)
[0000103] 33372.758 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT [6] {“status”:“Buffering”}
[0000104] 33374.958 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] GOT [7] {“request”:“start”,“time”:2635315941,“stream_sample”:0}
[0000105] 33374.958 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] Start stream sample 0
[0000106] 33374.959 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT [6] {“status”:“Playing”}
[0000107] 33374.959 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT [7] {“status”:“Success”}
[0000108] 33375.004 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=2480938583 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000109] 33375.020 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=2496812917 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000110] 33375.022 TRACE starting playback: now (2600000000ns) + ns_per_buf(100000000ns) = 2700000000ns > 2635315941ns streamsample=0
[0000111] 33375.036 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=2512284125 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000112] 33375.051 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=2527838125 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000113] 33375.067 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=2543296792 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000114] 33377.489 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=4965286792 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000115] 33377.504 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=4980998792 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000116] 33377.520 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=4996845126 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000117] 33377.536 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=5012191126 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000118] 33377.551 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=5027802459 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000119] 33380.254 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=7730898209 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000120] 33380.270 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=7746844875 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000121] 33380.288 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=7764496209 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000122] 33380.301 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=7777910542 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000123] 33380.317 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=7793364875 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000124] 33383.317 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=10793414833 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000125] 33383.333 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=10809162709 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000126] 33383.348 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=10824969375 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000127] 33383.364 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=10840728042 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000128] 33383.379 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=10855972375 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000129] 33386.723 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=14199783292 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000130] 33386.739 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=14215360626 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000131] 33386.754 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=14230974626 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000132] 33386.770 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=14246860626 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000133] 33386.786 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=14262193626 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000134] 33390.489 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=17965600292 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000135] 33390.505 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=17981082626 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000136] 33390.520 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=17996831959 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000137] 33390.536 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=18012319833 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000138] 33390.551 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=18027868500 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000139] 33394.661 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=22137317918 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000140] 33394.677 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=22153570251 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000141] 33394.692 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=22168571584 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000142] 33394.708 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=22184400584 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000143] 33394.723 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] [roon] sending clock sync success response time=22199814126 to 10.0.1.69:58202
[0000144] 33394.923 WARNING dropout of 380 samples at 3832840 [2]
[0000145] 33395.023 WARNING dropout of 484 samples at 3851936 [2]
[0000146] 33395.123 WARNING dropout of 3316 samples at 3868304 [2]
[0000147] 33395.223 WARNING dropout of 6148 samples at 3884672 [2]
[0000148] 33395.323 WARNING dropout of 6252 samples at 3903768 [2]
[0000149] 33395.423 WARNING dropout of 9084 samples at 3920136 [2]
[0000150] 33395.523 WARNING dropout of 9188 samples at 3939232 [2]
[0000151] 33395.623 WARNING dropout of 12020 samples at 3955600 [2]
[0000152] 33395.723 WARNING dropout of 14852 samples at 3971968 [2]
[0000153] 33395.823 WARNING dropout of 14956 samples at 3991064 [2]
[0000154] 33395.923 WARNING dropout of 17788 samples at 4007432 [2]
[0000155] 33396.023 WARNING dropout of 17892 samples at 4026528 [2]
[0000156] 33396.123 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4044420 [2]
[0000157] 33396.223 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4063620 [2]
[0000158] 33396.323 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4082820 [2]
[0000159] 33396.423 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4102020 [2]
[0000160] 33396.523 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4121220 [2]
[0000161] 33396.623 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4140420 [2]
[0000162] 33396.723 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4159620 [2]
[0000163] 33396.823 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4178820 [2]
[0000164] 33396.923 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4198020 [2]
[0000165] 33397.023 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4217220 [2]
[0000166] 33397.123 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4236420 [2]
[0000167] 33397.223 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4255620 [2]
[0000168] 33397.323 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4274820 [2]
[0000169] 33397.423 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4294020 [2]
[0000170] 33397.523 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4313220 [2]
[0000171] 33397.623 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4332420 [2]
[0000172] 33397.723 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4351620 [2]
[0000173] 33397.823 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4370820 [2]
[0000174] 33397.923 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4390020 [2]
[0000175] 33398.023 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4409220 [2]
[0000176] 33398.123 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4428420 [2]
[0000177] 33398.223 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4447620 [2]
[0000178] 33398.323 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4466820 [2]
[0000179] 33398.423 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4486020 [2]
[0000180] 33398.523 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4505220 [2]
[0000181] 33398.623 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4524420 [2]
[0000182] 33398.723 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4543620 [2]
[0000183] 33398.823 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4562820 [2]
[0000184] 33398.923 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4582020 [2]
[0000185] 33399.023 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4601220 [2]
[0000186] 33399.123 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4620420 [2]
[0000187] 33399.223 WARNING dropout of 19200 samples at 4639620 [2]
[0000188] 33399.240 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] GOT [8] {“request”:“stop”}
[0000189] 33399.241 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT [6] {“status”:“Stopped”}
[0000190] 33399.242 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT [8] {“status”:“Success”}
[0000191] 33405.599 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] GOT [-1] {“request”:“end_stream”}
[0000192] 33405.600 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT [6] {“status”:“Ended”}
[0000193] 33405.601 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT [-1] {“status”:“Success”}
[0000194] 33405.602 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] GOT [9] {“request”:“teardown”}
[0000195] 33405.602 TRACE [alsa] teardown
[0000196] 33405.635 TRACE [lua@0xe5624] [10.0.1.69:25792] SENT [5] {“status”:“Teardown”}
[0000197] 34717.624 TRACE [server] [10.0.1.30:42953] accepted connection
[0000198] 34717.627 TRACE [session] [10.0.1.30:42953] starting
[0000199] 34717.627 TRACE [session] [10.0.1.30:42953] [internal] executing lua script
[0000200] 34717.629 TRACE [session] [10.0.1.30:42953] [internal] executing lua script
[0000201] 34717.630 TRACE [session] [10.0.1.30:42953] created
02/26/2016 10:12:44 - ------------------------------------------------------------
02/26/2016 10:12:44 - aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: SPDIF [Integrated SPDIF], device 0: S/PDIF PCM snd-soc-dummy-dai-0 []
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: M20 [Meitner USB Audio 2.0], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

Ooooh, there’s nothing like a bit of pressure! :wink:

Watching this as I have similar issues and similar looking logs, when using a usb dac with sonic orbiter se and RoonReady. I have no issues running optical.

This is just a guess…Do you have jumbo frames enabled on the windows machine?

What happens if you turn it off?

Jumbo frames / packets is disabled on the Windows machine.

Firewall enabled on windows machine? If so, try turning off.

The switch is a weirdo–at least–very different compared to what most people use at home. I don’t have a specific suspicion about what it could be doing wrong, but if it is possible to temporarily eliminate it from the path between the server and endpoint, it might be a good troubleshooting step.

Firewall is off.

I have several switches I can try. I’ll try them out.

Why must current and former network engineers alway run overkill cisco gear at home? :grin:

I use a cheap ass netgear managed switch for port aggregation and it has been flawless.

I have exactly the same switch :wink:

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I like your sense of humor :~)

It’s actually not overkill when using Ravenna based audio (Merging NADAC) devices because you need the configurability and options to try when things don’t work.

I suppose you are always trying/reviewing all the newest and greatest. I’ll give you a pass in this case. :relaxed:

Hi @brian I just replaced the Cisco switch with a Netgear GS108 (more pedestrian switch) and the results are the same.

You mentioned having two RoonServers on the network. It looks like you’re only using one of them (not the SOtM).

Does the same thing happen with the SOtM driving the SE? What if you remove the SOtM from the network?

(I have multiple RoonServers running here 100% of the time, so I doubt having two is an issue in and of itself, but I haven’t seen that SOtM device in person, so eliminating variables).

I reviewed your Roon logs…they look normal/healthy. The server still thinks it’s sending data. All of those dropout logs on the endpoint suggest that it’s not getting there.

That’s the pedestrian switch I use. :+1:

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@brian I just shutoff all other machines running Roon or RoonServer. No change.

The identical problem happens when I use the SOtM RoonServer or when sending audio from my standard Roon install on my MacBook Pro.

Firstly I know nothin…

The fact that it stops at 20 sec consistently seems to be some sort of a buffer issue on the receiving device. Hard to understand why it would be consistent bw Aries and Orbiter except that I bet its the same linux binary…