RopieeXL plus PI2AES does not stop sending data into ars output anymore

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I happily used ropieexl with pi2aes@rpi4 for a while.

And most loved feature is I can play to aes input of my Genelec speakers , stop playing on Roon, then play marantz XLR analog outputs and speakers detect signal automatically and switches to it.

After one of upgrades this behavior is gone .

Genelec says it must not receive any data , even zeroes , at all on ars/ebu input to be able to switch to analog input.

So I suspect something changed in config .

Probably latest ropieee Linux kernel upgrade ?

@spockfish , only hope you could have idea on how I could debug it . I am DevOps and using Linux shell is not problem at all . So throw some scripts at me, please .

Of course goal is to restore “no data sending to AES after pause in Roon “ state of things .

Right now I can bring analog input back only by ropieee restart , which is not super convenient:)

And happy holidays to all !

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Sorry to go a bit off topic. Can I ask how you handle volume control when going AES into the Genelecs? Is it device volume in Roon? I have the 8341 and been thinking about the trying PIAES.

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Welcome to the forum Mykola.

What hat driver did you install?

Maybe install the SD card so it is fresh again.

Cheers John.

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Thanks ! I choose pi2aes in hats list in ropiee UI . But seems it is using hifiberry digi driver . And I guess that was used before I got described problem.

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Thanks for muddying water here :slight_smile: No worries really .
So I use DSP volume . I tired remote for Genelec but you can not set it without glm box powered and it is tricky , once I got full volume , and on 8361 it is around 110db I guess . Was not pleasant experience:)

So I decided that good Roon DSP volume is acceptable , it uses 64 bit to avoid too much rounding drifts you know .

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I have a AES hat from Audiophonics and I installed it with a HifiBerry driver. However you have a RP4. mine is a 3+

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Does digital / analog auto switching work for you ?

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Mine has no analog output

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Hope it is not Linux kernel , and even if it is , hope we could figure out some custom sysctl flag to shut data on aes off.

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Yeah, maybe someone else any thoughts?

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This might be possibly related to Alsa DAPM that has been disabled in the latest version.
Alsa DAPM disables outputs after 5 seconds when there is no data.

@Mykola_Derzhak I can give you some instructions to test if this is the case.

Thanks

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@spockfish That would be great ! So we can confirm it and tackle from there.

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login with SSH (u:root, p:ropieee)

and remove the following file:

/etc/modprobe.d/ropieee-disable-alsa-dapm.conf

reboot the unit (type reboot) and try again.

Thanks

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So I did it. And it is it ! Now switching between digital/analog inputs on genelecs works !

Thanks Harry ! Love your product for simplicity and stability !

[root@ropieeexl ~]# cat /etc/modprobe.d/ropieee-disable-alsa-dapm.conf
options snd-soc-core pmdown_time=-1
[root@ropieeexl ~]# rm /etc/modprobe.d/ropieee-disable-alsa-dapm.conf
[root@ropieeexl ~]# reboot
Connection to ropieeexl.local closed by remote host.
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Only ask of comfort would be: Can I make that rm command part of my auto-upgrade (I use on reboot upgrades, but think on scheduled reboots) ?

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No you can’t.

I think (and in general I do not like adding complexity) the only proper way is to expose this as a setting. Where the default is DAPM off, but for cases like yours you can enable it.

Need to think a little bit more about this.

Thanks

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Makes sense. There is always trade off of complexity VS flexibility.
Part of config / UI option sounds good.
Take your time please.

And happy New Year !

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Hi @Mykola_Derzhak,

I’ve added a switch for enabling Alsa DAPM, but I don’t expose it to the UI (yet).

So with the next stable release, please ping me so I don’t forget to tell you how to make this persistent for you :wink:

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Thanks, man ! I can create calendar event for you :slight_smile: