Rugby's Weekly Roon User and Music Google Chat

I wanted to listen on my system, not YouTube and I found two different Bauhaus Bela recordings via Roon. You tube version seems quite different from the ones I found on Roon… the Youtube version seems to be missing the rim shots in the opening (maybe that’s just Youtube compression) . The tracks I found are different from each other.'Till Saturday, My notes:

Performer: Bauhaus

Press The Eject And Give The Tape
Live at Hammersmith 1988
and This Is For When (1981, Hammersmith)
and Good Luck Chuck
Appear to be the same
Strong, consistent ground base melody… does that make it Goth
More like recitative than aria… does that make it Goth

The Bela Session
(Official Version) 2018 release??
Ground base breaks pattern occasionally.
Mirror cracking whistle.

All open guitar chords, i.e no riffs or arpeggios in both

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I really enjoyed reading the book The Art of Darkness : The History of Goth by John Robb while listening to many of the albums discussed. I had quite a few on vinyl, but ended up buying quite a few more while reading the book (as well as streaming many)

I read the paperback, and it is now with a neighbor who is reading it rather slowly

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This would also be a good primer read

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According to music journalist Simon Reynolds, standard musical fixtures of gothic rock include “scything guitar patterns, high-pitched basslines that often usurped the melodic role [and] beats that were either hypnotically dirgelike or tom-tom heavy and ‘tribal’”.[5] Reynolds described the vocal style as consisting of “deep, droning alloys of Jim Morrison and Leonard Cohen”.[5] Several acts used drum machines downplaying the rhythm’s backbeat.[6]

Wikipedia

Some of the following may have been previously presented. But, here goes…

Goth Music from a music composition view…

"In Goth, the guitar tone is usually processed with electronic effects. A clean or warmly overdriven guitar sound is processed through chorusing, flanging, analog delay, and/or dense reverb, resulting in a timbre that resembles those used by Bauhaus, Siouxsie and the Banshees, and The Cure. As well, goth has a characteristic guitar playing style. Goth guitar playing takes its downstroke playing style from punk, and emphasizes angular melodic lines instead of thick chords. Minor keys and minor mode melodies are prevalent, but major keys are also used. The Phrygian mode, with a flattened second scale degree contributes to the Goth sound with its haunting and spooky mood. Goth songs are typically mixed so that there is a heavy bass sound, which creates a dark and shadowy atmosphere.

Goth often uses repetitive snare drum snap to propel the beat, either a real drum beat or, later on, usually a drum machine beat. The metronomic snare drum sound can be heard on Iggy Pop’s The Idiot. It continues on in Joy Division’s songs, Gary Numan’s early music, on early Cure CDs (beginning with Seventeen Seconds) and early Sisters of Mercy recordings. More sophisticated variations of the snare drum snap are used by Kevin Haskins in Bauhaus’ music."

1950s

Screaming Jay Hawkings “I Put a Spell on You.”

1960s

The Doors
Velvet Underground
Nico The Marble Index - Wikipedia

1970s
John Cale and Terry Riley. “Church of Anthrax”

Iggy Pop “The Idiot”, David Bowie / Brian Eno “Low”, “Heroes”, “The Lodger”.

BOC Spectres album, “I Love the Night”, “Nosferatu”,

Alan Parsons Project Tales of Mystery and Imagination
“Dream within a Dream”, “The Raven”, “Fall of the House of Usher”

1979

Suicide, “Cheree”, keyboards instead of guitars, “Dream Baby Dream” (later covered by Bruce Springsteen).

In the late 1970s, the word “gothic” was used to describe the atmosphere of post-punk bands like Siouxsie and the Banshees, Magazine and Joy Division.

Siouxsi and the Banshees*, Joy Division, Bauhaus, The Cure

Bauhaus’s debut single, “Bela Lugosi’s Dead”, released in late 1979, was retrospectively considered to be the beginning of the gothic rock genre.

1980s

In the early 1980s, post-punk bands such as Siouxsie and the Banshees and the Cure {“Primary”, “A Night Like This”, {Standing on a Beach The Singles] [Disintegration],included more gothic characteristics in their music.}

1983

The 4AD label released music in a more ethereal style,[48] by groups such as Cocteau Twins,[Treasure (Cocteau Twins album) - Wikipedia] Dead Can Dance Into the Labyrinth (Dead Can Dance album) - Wikipedia,

The Sisters of Mercy “Floodlands”, “This Corrosion”, “Dominion” and “Lucretia My Reflection”

Nick Cave “Red Right Hand”

Siouxsie “Spellbound”, “Arabian Knights”, “Christine”, “Green Fingers”, “Dear Prudence”,

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Today’s meeting will be at the same time as usual, 3 pm EST. So, crack open a beverage of choice, and join us if you can.

The chats revolve around Roon, other hardware/software audio topics, or just music. If you are having an issue with Roon, or, hardware or network setups, let us know and we will try and help!

Please keep in mind, everyone here is a fellow user like yourself; so this is NOT an official Roon chat.

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Sorry had some tech difficulties!

Today Chat postponed til next week.

We couldn’t find a quiet place to hikd the chat, so ,we will just post pics and discuss them next week!!





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I see from the top pic that the show organisers thoughtfully provided a fancy bug zapper to protect from the insects that infest the Washington swamp.

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It also has great imaging and acoustics!

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@ipeverywhere @andybob

Take a look at this

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Looks interesting enough. Will wait for a review.






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Today’s meeting will be at the same time as usual, 3 pm EST. So, crack open a beverage of choice, and join us if you can.

The chats revolve around Roon, other hardware/software audio topics, or just music. If you are having an issue with Roon, or, hardware or network setups, let us know and we will try and help!

Please keep in mind, everyone here is a fellow user like yourself; so this is NOT an official Roon chat.

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As threatened:

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I checked out Outer Marker Records. I got two vinyls and some streams. Of course I jumped on “The Art Of Fugue”. The two harpsicodes arrangement is good so far… just getting started on it.

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Excellent!

Sorry I missed that!

I’ll dress up for the Elton John Chat.

.sjb

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My recent purchases

Pure Reason Revolution - Coming Up To Consciousness

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Stefano Panunzi:
Pages From The Sea

Beyond The Illusion

a Rose

Timelines

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Fjieri - Words Are All We Have Reloaded

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Leprous - Melodies Of Atonement

Leprous - Aphelion (Tour Edition)

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Klone - The Unseen

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The Pineapple Thief - Last To Run EP

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Envy Of None - Not Dead Yet

Envy Of None- That Was Then, This Is Now

Highly recommended to check out Envy Of None lead singer - Maiah Wynne and her solo stuff, what an amazing voice

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If you like the Stefano Panunzi albums, then you should certainly check this out (if you haven’t already). Lori is a long-time collaborator, and member of Fjieri, and this album is fantastic.

RoonShareImage-638656359059287940

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Thanks for the into! I really liked his “other” band Fjieri, really cool stuff. I’ll check it out. Stefano was a recent find for me and bought his discography (per above). Top shelf musicians etc… good stuff.

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And today’s song in my quest to listen to The Fall’s full A and B sides was (This) Perfect Day - a cover of the Saints, who I’m now listening to.

.sjb

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