Save Grouped Zones

It would be a nice enhancement to Roon if you could create permanent source Groups. Right now when you create a source group this removes the source form playing individually and once you Ungroup the sources the sources you grouped are removed.

I would like to create a grouping, save it as a particular name (ie Outside Speakers) and keep this permanent or persistent. I would still like to have access to the individual outside speakers as desired.

This would really make the source grouping option a powerful tool for those who have multiple sources.

I currently have 10 sources using 3 Marantz M4s plus my primary Home Theater driven by the Denon AVR-A110 receiver and Polk Audio Legend Speakers, and a Cambridge CXN100 DAC. I also use the internal DAC or the AVR occasionally.

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Hi, I created problem ref#RW7480 which had been closed now, 2 days to early, but this is my problem with hopefully also the solution :

I have 2 zones that I want to see and set as a permanent group. When I am in both rooms they should play the same music but when I am in only 1 zone then I switch of that device (standby mode).

To start the good news, this works almost perfect when these devices (both Lyngdorf) are configured with “network standby disabled”. Then ROON will send music to my “group” when only 1 device is ON, and it continues to play when I switch ON the second device/zone (with a short interruption).

When I switch OFF 1 device/zone then ROON stops, but I can press Play and it continues the song. So almost perfect so far.

When both devices are configured with “network standby enabled” then ROON won’t start when only 1 device is ON (see my case ref#RW7480) .

@connor , as you see I think that a solution is possible. When a network enabled device/zone doesn’t respond you should treat it just like the network disabled device/zone and continue.

When that zone becomes active you can start the synchronisation as you do already in the described case above with the network disabled zones.

So in my opinion it is not “outside of Roon’s current capabilities”, you can do it with a small change :wink:.

P.S. that could perhaps also solve some other zone/group issues like Group of zones / endpoints - design issue as long as they don’t allow the device to power ON with streaming (which is also a setting in the beautiful Lyngdorf streamers).

Best regards,

Dirk

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I have the following use case: I have two mono smart speakers that I stream to undividually, but would like to group in other cases to form a stereo pair. In stereo, I would like to control left and right channels through the settings of the audio device (set one speaker to the left channel, the other to the right channel). So in this situation, having three zones available would be much easier, but only if the grouped (stereo) zone would remember left and right channel settings and the individual zones would remember to convert both (stereo) channels to mono (as they do by default).

For extra points, I would like to set one zone (in this grouped stereo pair) to follow volume levels of the other zone. This allows me to use a remote for one of the speakers to control the stereo pair!

@Geoff_Coupe it seems thats suggestion/feature for 5 or more years without ANY update at all, for a specific reason?

its completely unusable in the houses with multiple rooms/speakers.

I don’t work for Roon Labs and have no knowledge about their development plans.

@Geoff_Coupe i would expect someone from that company REACTs after years… they ignore users apparently.

On this topic the Roon engineers are oddly quite silent and yet this has been a top feature request for ages. I thoroughly enjoy Roon but for a product that’s at the higher end of cost, I would hope there’s a gameplan to add features that the user base has deemed highly desirable.

It’s a long-standing policy of Roon Labs to not comment on feature requests. When they did (in the very early days of Roon), they got burned for it, so the policy was born.

The best we can hope for is to see the occasional [on Roadmap] or [not on Roadmap] in a Feature Suggestion title - and even that is not set in stone. For example, folder browsing was a [not on Roadmap] feature for years until suddenly it appeared.

And the Roadmap is never, ever, made public and no timescales are ever given. It is what it is. Until a feature pops up in Early Access we don’t know what is being worked on.

I have scanned through this post. I love Roon - however it is entirely inappropriate for a company to go on 8 years with no response to a request such as this. What am I paying monthly for? Is that money going towards improving the product? It doesn’t look like it. This is very surprising and it makes me question the product and support. Are we to go on 9 years? 10 years? At what point in time will this be delivered - or - does Roon not care about their customers?

There’s definitely a mystery to this company. On one hand they have a product that stands above much of the competition. On the other hand, the product lacks a number of features that were default in the Squeeze server in 2008. In addition, they’re not very responsive or transparent about improvements in the product. Very odd.

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Why such basic functionality still isn’t implemented is beyond a mystery to me.

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Still nothing on this?

My family is asking me to turn on music in the house. With this simple feature anyone could use it. Just click the zones you want to play grouped music and hit play.

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I really like the ability to group my Roon ready components, but I’d like to suggest a tweak. Can you develop a ‘zone’ definition? In other words, my listening room might include my Cyrus 40T, but if I have a dinner party I might want to create a ‘downstairs’ group with the Cyrus and my Mu-So which is in my dining room and maybe my Pulse M in my kitchen. Then, after the party, if I want to go back and listen to the Cyrus on its own, I need to manually ungroup. It would be nice to be able to use components multiple times over various zones. So I guess my suggestion is to use ‘rooms’ instead of or in addition to the existing group setting.

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