Want to have a album named demo or sampler where I have songs which I use audition equipment at home. Have tried everything I can to get this to work and cannot get Roon to show it to me. All tracks & names have been successfully imported under other album names already. I want a composit in one place under 1 album/artist name. Folder being imported has no meta data in it, only tracks in FLAC format.
Structure is I:\demo\sampler\ Flac tracks
Have copied added demo drive and directory to storage, says it imports the track, but I cannot see demo or sampler and cannot find the track consolidate in one place
Copied Sampler directory into existing directory with albums and tracks that was successfully import – cannot see it import tracks and can still not find any of it
Last – using windows, I copied \sampler directory to Roon, which imported it into one of my identified directory structures. Same result – still cannot find \sampler – which should be the album name. Directory structure was copied into existing storage directory being used by Roon.
Please help – there is obviously something going on here re: album name/artist that I do no understand.
No only can I not see it in overview and other views, in all view it is not found with your search either
I realize I could accomplish most of what I am doing by creating a playlist, but do not understand why I cannot get Roon to see the and Show the Folder and track structure I am giving it.
After cuting & pasting this structure into Roon - The tracks are being inported, but are not organized by the folder stucture so I cannot find them all together. It seems to have identified each track with a different album or artist – leaving the tracks scattered all over the place, not in one folder/album as I wanted.
Screenshot can be made available if desired. There is probably some combination of options in Library\Import Options that will make this happen but I have not found it yet - and I do not want Roon to use some special setup for this single need and apply it to everything else (which is basicly working fine)
The easiest would probably be to tag the tracks with ‘Sampler’ for Album name and ‘Various Artists’ for Artist, with track numbers for the order you’d like the tracks to be in – and have this imported as an unidentified album in Roon.
Alternatively, you could map the \sampler directory as a separate storage location in Roon, and use Focus > Inspector > Storage Locations in Album view to zoom in on these tracks.
Not sure what you mean about album names, etc. Roon imported all my other stuff just fine, including digitized cassettes with same basic structure. Is the problem that these tracks are identical (I copied them from existing tracks) to tracks Roon has already imported. Why is it totally ignoring the I:\demo\sampler\ directory structure in getting to the tracks?
PS: as noted, I added the directory structure by itself as a new path/structure under Storage - this didn’t help and I could still not find these tracks consolidarted in one place
If the tracks themselves are already in Roon – why not just create a new Tag in Roon called ‘Sampler’, and add the tracks you need to that Tag? This case seems made for it.
I agree with @RBM, that Tags are the way to go. However, about this: [quote=“Alfred_Linthicum, post:3, topic:25157”]
Why is it totally ignoring the I:\demo\sampler\ directory structure in getting to the tracks?
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Roon uses more than just the directory structure to identify, it also uses, song title, album title, artist, album artist fields that are embedded in the track. To make a Sampler Album, you need to Change the Album Title for All Tracks to “Sampler” or whatever you want to call it, and change the Album Artist to “Various Artists” (keep the Artist and Track Name the same) So, here is the metadata for a sampler album, (notice the two highlighted fields)
Yep, or a play list - I was just trying to figure out what was controling the import so I’d undertand it better for the future. Certainly a waste of time at this point. I’ll just delete the stuff I’ve been trying to get Roon to import, do the clean up, and setup a tag or playlist of my demo stuff. I would still like to know why Roon ignores the directory structure containing the tracks to better understand how it work. Like I said, using the build in search function there is no hit in any mode on Demo or Sampler - it finds the tracks but ignores the directory they are in - which I thought would be used as the album name. It certainly seems to be used as the album name for all the rest of the music it imported. I copied all these track from different places and put them in single directory so I could burn a DVD and take it with me to demo equipment. I was just trying to avoid the small effort need to pick them out again - so much for saving time-))
Were is this “metadata” located. I am running Win7 Pro. Properties for these folders contain nothing like the above, nor can I find anything like this in Roon - maybe in the import settings changing Metadata preferences from Roon to Prefer File. My concern is I want this in effect for just this one instance, not future imports. Where can I find what you are referencing above.
Hey @Alfred_Linthicum – there are some pretty complex processes at work when you import content into Roon, particularly compared to many other media players. One of the first steps is where tracks are grouped into albums, after which those albums are looked up against our metadata cloud so that extended information can be retrieved (like credits, reviews, high res cover art, etc).
Reading this thread, it looks like you’re having problems with that first part – the tracks aren’t being “clumped” together into an album. We do sometimes see collections where tracks from many different albums are all stored in a single folder, and so we can’t assume that a folder is always the same thing as an album. Most likely, something about your files is making Roon think these files aren’t all from the same album.
This could be caused by:
Tracks that aren’t numbered contiguously in either the file names or the track number tags
Tracks that don’t share a common album tag
Tracks that don’t share a common album artist tag
As others have mentioned, you may want to leave these tracks in their own albums (so they get full metadata based on their original release) and then collect them into a playlist or tag. Or, you can select all the tracks and group them into an album, if you prefer.
Either way, the steps described here are probably the easiest way forward, since you can just filter your tracks down to I:\demo\sampler\ Flac tracks, and select them.
The metadata is located in the Flac file itself, not the folder. Right click on the Flac file and select Properites, it will be under Details. Your detail page may look different as I have extra software installed which alters this view for me (dbPoweramp).
James_I
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Hi Alfred - as above, the metadata being referred to is actually embedded in each track file itself. You can edit this using many types of software (Roon will not edit it - they took that function out after users messed up their files with the editing function) - my favorite is Foobar2000. But you can Google ID3 Tag editor and find many programs to do this. You just need one that supports FLAC.
Ok, I’ll look for some SW to access this data level - it certainly isn’t supported in Windows directly. Now that I know that this meta data is imbedded in each FLAC file it makes much more sense (ie. what Roon is doing with it when I try to add it to the Roon). I’ve dropped trying this for now and am painfully (learning as I go), creating a Tag list containing these track. Thanks for the help and advice (from everyone)
James_I
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Hi Alfred - one more point. Much of the tagging software can run automatically - i.e. it can read and assume a lot of the data from folder structure and filenames, and you can “program” it to your preference. So you may very well get to configure the software right, start it up, go to bed, and the next morning your collection has these tags. Then Roon will be able to read them better.
