Should I stay with Roon, and how?

I don’t think you misunderstood; your understanding is the same as mine. Same points, but different answers.

I do agree : a NUC/ROCK is heavy for this purpose. Much like driving a Lexus for your daily commute. Quite a bit more than you need. But very comfy and trouble-free, nonetheless :slight_smile: . What is the right choice, when a Lexus is double the price of a VW Polo ? (Considering that you were willing to spend a quadruple, in the first place!)

As far as I know, ROCK can be used as endpoint-only, and can co-exist with another available Core. I do not see a problem, but please do correct me if I’m wrong.

Differences in our answers as I see them :

  • You are advising from a price and performance requirements perspective.
  • I am advising from a comfort (no-maintenance) and appliance perspective. Especially with multichannel HDMI, or having any HDMI audio without having a screen attached, I know this can be troublesome with generic PC’s…

I use RPi’s and Minix Atom computers without any problems as endpoints. Many people do.

You don’t need to spend a lot on an endpoint as the core does all the heavy lifting.

If the cost of a relatively expensive endpoint is chump change to you, then feel free to ignore my experience.

Given there is only one output zone described in the OP’s post, and they talk about feeding an AV receiver, you could go super cheap and get a Chromecast Audio and call it done. If willing to spend a little more money, then one of the RPI/etc solutions with a digital audio hat to feed the receiver would also work and run a native RoonBridge.

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How about a Bluesound Node 2i? $500, Amazon Prime, Roon-ready, etc. 5 stars at What Hi-Fi. I’m tempted myself.

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Thanks for all your replies.

As i’m new at this i really appreciate it.

I read up on RoPieee and since I already have Raspberry Pi’s lying around I think it would make sense to go that route. My NUC stays connected to my Receiver/TV (mainly for Plex but also for multi-channel Roon audio) and I get to tinker with a new project. :slight_smile: A cheap(-ish) USB DAC that’s supported (and decodes DSDs) will get me a long way and presumably, if I get the RPi 7" screen and a stand, I can live with the looks (or just hide it if screen-less).
This will save me money, too.

Again, thanks everyone,
Daniel

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In that case, I was indeed a bit wrong :slight_smile: . Sorry. My assumption was, that multichannel HDMI was a necessity for this new machine, too. If you don’t need it, then a Pi can be a nice option. I believe (unsure) this is not possible with a Pi.

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You might struggle with the pi and higher bit rates if using usb on the pi itself. It’s really not very good. Mine could not play anything more than 192/24 before it started to get artefacts. DSD was a clicky mess. If you use the Lan port it’s even worse due its shared bus with the usb. NUC likely more reliable in their case.

You could add This to the pi for DSD or get an Allo USBridge. I have one I can sell you. :slight_smile:

https://www.audiophonics.fr/en/dac-and-interfaces-for-raspberry-pi/audiophonics-dac-i-sabre-es9038q2m-raspberry-pi-i2s-spdif-pcm-dsd-p-12795.html

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My experience with different Pi’s differ greatly. There have been basically no issues at all up to 32bit/384Khz and DSD128 (as DoP) when using a USB DAC. If you transcode using the pi to SPDIF there will of course be issues over 24/192.

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I used a usb DAC native dsd and dop both resulted in clicking.

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I just thought it would be a fun project to add a Pi to my setup, i’ll see if I go with a HAT or USB.
I have a Dell 3040 I could easily run an USB DAC on should I chose to do so.
I realise I tend to over-complicate things.
it turns out my receiver has AirPlay built-in so basic playback is without issues even with TV turned off. I just turn on 9-channel stereo and kick back.

It’s increasingly likely that i’ll keep Roon around. It’s just a really nice music manager/player.

I have an issue with it not discovering .dts files, I have one album in that strange format. VLC Player and Plex plays them fine (in DTS no less) but no luck with Roon. I’ll search around for a solution or ask Roon to look into it. It’s certainly not a show stopper.

There are some archimago (did I spell that correctly?) articles suggesting the Pi Ethernet drivers are to blame, and that setting the speed of the Ethernet port to 100Mb will fix it.

Hmmm it was running Ropieee so could not change any drivers. But all posts up to the 3 + are all 100mb anyway. But I was using it on a 3+.

I don’t think it supports DTS. Plex will as it has codec support for it already for the video side of things. It’s a licensed codec so likely thats why it’s not supported.

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I was amazed how good a RPi running Roipii was, I feed an Audiolab MDac to Sennheiser HD800 ( I am virtually 100% headphones these days)

I added an Allo Digione to get coax to take full 192 ability of the Dac, USB only did 96. I am sure it’s better but difficult to spot with my hearing

It’s a cheap and very good alternative to expensive streamers, put the money into the DAC

My 2p

Mike

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Hi @Daniel_Lundh,

No, Roon will not recognize DTS files.And neither will it decode anything, that is DTS encoded.

(it is not an ‘official feature’. But since its output can be bit-perfect, Roon can pass-through such DTS encoded files. You of course will need a DTS capable receiver for that. And the other thing : not a single modification to your audio may be done. Meaning : no volume corrections, no DPS-ing, and only use exclusive mode. If all these conditions are met, you can passthrough DTS encoded files. Like DTSWAV, for instance. But *.dts will simply not be recognized).

In your case :your files should be converted to something different. I myself find a multichannel FLAC to be the most practical. I myself, use Jriver for this.

Yes, filesize willl increase a bit, But so does compatibility; worth a lot in my opinion. Sorry for using the ugly ‘Jriver’ word on this forum, I just find it the nicest tool for this application. I’m sure that other tools are capable of this, too (perhaps dbpoweramp or foobar, I haven’t checked)

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I made this RoPieee setup with RPi3+HiFiBerry DAC+ Pro for my son.
It was supereasy. The hardest part was finding fitting LEGO pieces. :smiley:

I think I have my answer, I’m gonna stay with Roon.

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Very nice. If the next Ropieee update ‘bricks’ the Pi, don’t say we didn’t warn you! :rofl:

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I auditioned the Node 2 (not 2i) when considering an upgrade to my IQaudiO Pi-DAC+. They are in the same league; nothing between them as far as I could tell (not surprising since they both share the same DAC chip.) So, I came to the conclusion that to beat a Pi Hat you need to spend considerably more for a retail unit.

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That’s just awesome.

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No there’s an amazing idea.

LEGO Roon server anyone? LE’MOCK?

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