Siri plays random songs through Roon ARC (ref#XBWH09)

What’s happening?

· I'm having trouble with Roon ARC

What best describes your issue with ARC

· CarPlay / Android Auto issue

Describe the issue

Siri plays random songs through Arc. Most of the time, when I tell it to play a specific song by a particular artist, it will play a different song, often by a different artist. I say something like, "Hey, Siri. Play 'A Song for You' by Donny Hathaway on Roon Arc," but it plays some song with not a particularly close name by a seemingly random artist. When I tell Siri to play the song on Apple Music, however, it seems more likely to get it right. I have logged out of Qobuz on Roon, so Qobuz shouldn't be confusing Arc (or Siri).

Describe your network setup

Ubiquiti router

Hi @Andrew_Stein,
Thanks for reaching out to let us know about this issue. I think the next step here is to enable some diagnostics on your account so our technical staff can get some more insight into what’s going on here.

However, before I enable this feature, I’d like to ask for your help ensuring we gather the right information.

First, can you please reproduce the issue once more and note the time at which the error occurs. Then respond here with that time, and I’ll make sure we review the diagnostics related to that timestamp.

I will try. Thank you.

Hey @Andrew_Stein,

A few additonal quesitons for you:

  1. How long have you been using Siri with Arc?
  2. Does the same thing occur if you ask Siri to play a downloaded song in Arc?

Can you expand on this comment? Do you mean you’ve set up a situation where Siri only has access to your local library within Roon? Or, does Siri generally work better and is more accurate when you’ve disabled Qobuz?

Thanks for your time!

Hi. I logged out of Qobuz on Roon because your support staff suggested it to combat extremely slow searches. I haven’t set up Siri to access only my local library, but I assume that, because of the logging out of Qobuz on Roon, Siri’s Roon searches do not extend to my Qobuz library.

I have been using Siri with Arc pretty much since Roon released that feature. And, given that I have logged out of Qobuz on Roon, I assume my Siri requests for songs search only my local Roon library.

Thanks for your help.

Tonight at 8:58 PST, I asked Siri to play Donny Hathaway’s “I Love You More Than You’ll Ever Know” on Roon Arc, but it instead played a song by Aretha Franklin. Then, when I tried again, it played “Ghetto” by Hathaway.

I had the song that I wanted in my local library. And, again, I had been logged out of Qobuz.

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Thanks for letting us know that timestamp @Andrew_Stein ! We will review the logging with the team and get back to you once we have more info to share. Thanks in advance for your patience.

Hi. It is still occurring, by the way. Yesterday afternoon, I called for “Mumbles” by Clark Terry but instead got “L-O-V-E” by him.

Hi @Andrew_Stein,
We’ve nailed down where the problem is on our system. We’ve passed it to the team responsible for that area. I cannot give you an exact timeline for a fix to be released but we will let you know when it does.

Thank you.

Hey @Andrew_Stein,

There aren’t any additional details needed at this time, so we will go ahead and close the thread for the time being, and if any other questions arise after the developers have reviewed the case, we will re-open the thread and reach out once more.

Thanks again for your report, and thank you in advance for your patience as the ticket progresses through the development queue for a fix. :raised_hands:

Hi. Several months ago, I reported that Roon ARC through Siri returned wrong results. It’s still wildly off. Would you please investigate? Thank you.

Hi @Andrew_Stein ,

Thanks for the reminder on this. I have merged your post into the previous thread and I have requested an update in the ticket regarding this issue. Please note that due to the holidays, it may will take some time to hear back regarding any updates regarding this. We’ll update you as we have more news to share, thanks and happy holidays!

Hi. Any word? Thank you.

Hi @Andrew_Stein,

The ticket hasn’t yet merged into a public release. We’ll get a more precise status update from development.

The vulnerability we uncovered concerned use of the preposition “by” during voice command. Do these two Siri command return different tracks in ARC?

“Play Donny Hathway, 'I Love You More Than You’ll Ever Know”
vs
“'Play ‘I Love You More Than You’ll Ever Know’ by Donny Hathaway”

In either case, what you’re experiencing certainly isn’t expected behavior, and we’ll improve this before long.

This time, each command produced the correct song.

I should add that I tried those commands from my AirPods Pro, while I usually use Roon ARC in the car and often append “on Roon ARC” to my command. I use CarPlay in that environment.

Another anomaly: when I tell Siri to play a song, it often says that it is playing the song but then plays nothing. Again, I am asking it to play the song in the car, so the process involves CarPlay.

I have tried again using Siri in the car with Roon ARC, but it still delivers random results, even if I don’t include “by” in the command.

Hi @Andrew_Stein,

Thank you for your patience.

Just for our redundant confirmation:

What is the specific vocal command you use in the car with ARC? Based on my understanding, a command might be “Play ‘This Song’, ‘This Artist’ on Roon ARC”, and then an incorrect track will play?