I love that within Roon I can copy Roon playlists of Tidal songs to a Tidal playlist. There are some advantages of having the playlists in Tidal such as access by Soundiiz, to get Tidal’s recommended songs, and using Tidal to cache offline songs
When I copy the playlist, again of Tidal songs, some are not found, usually like 5-10%. So in a playlist of 811 songs, it ended up with 785. In the playlist improver on the original list it says only 1 song not found. So the code in the playlist is finding the songs but the code in the playlist copy is not.
I thought there was a thread on this related to ARC but could not find it. I found this one that is closed (without resolution) with the same issue on Qobuz.
Does Roon use the services themselves to ‘find’ the tracks?
Might be that Roon isn’t using the newer Tidal API? They added filters for ISRC.
Qobuz does not offer ISRC searching.
Roon holds its own private database which is a merge of the data they get synced from Tidal and Qobuz and KKBox. This is so they can allow the advanced metadata editing and stuff Roon can do.
Its searches this it does not use the API for search at all. As this system is prone to errors often whole albums are missing and as most find out new releases often don’t appear for a few days for certain albums as the synced data hasn’t made it in time for Friday updates. But there are albums that just seem to fall through cracks completely and never appear with this method and it’s only because users flag them missing that support would investigate and fix it.
It’s also made worse by Roon idiosyncratic search which is often very hard to find somethings at all.
I mean, I know RoonLabs has it’s own database with resolved entities that ultimately lags behind the DSPs by a certain amount but I wasn’t sure if they were running these against that or deferring to the Tidal / Qobuz API at all.
It’s curious that taking a playlist from service A to service A loses tracks. Has anyone tried locating a track that wasn’t ‘found’ on the service itself?
They might somewhere it’s not really documented, but not finding stuff that is on the service in Roon is quite common and not limited to new releases. Tbh the playlist improver is likely on same code as Roons search so it’s going to suffer the same issues it has.
It doesn’t tell you which ones are not found. Haven’t invested the time to research yet, but the sons exist on the Roon playlist so i know they are there!!