Streaming Qobuz to NODE from BluOS has better SQ than from Roon

Roon Core Machine

Device name Archive
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U w/ Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx 2.10 GHz
Installed RAM 8.00 GB (5.89 GB usable)
Product ID 00330-51993-39211-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
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Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 22H2
Installed on ‎3/‎14/‎2023
OS build 22621.1413
Serial number PF1PY67L
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22639.1000.0

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Model Number: C3000Z
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Connected Audio Devices

BlueSound NODE (2022)
Connected to a Rega Brio-R

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Description of Issue

Streaming Qobuz to my Bluesound NODE from BluOS has much better SQ than streaming from Roon.

Pretty straightforward setup: NODE connects directly to the amp. PC is streaming Roon/Qobuz to NODE (not USB connected).

Any thoughts on why there’s a (very clear) difference?

If search the forum you will see many threads with “streaming from/through XXXX sounds better than roon” have a look through them as the opinions/answers have been gone through ad infinitum.

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When I had one there was no difference at all. Make of that what you will.

Maybe you have tone controls or replay gain enabled in BluOS or run some DSP in Roon. Maybe BluOS volume is simply louder than Roon and this is why you perceive it as being “better”.

At the end of the day it’s like @ged_hickman1 said… this horse has been beaten to death :slight_smile:

Welcome to the community though :beers:

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It will never stop as its just too subjective, ones mans food is anothers poision.

Actually this thread is very quiet, maybe we are over it.

I’d agree, but I’ve A/B tested with several music lovers, audiophiles, and folks who don’t care about the difference between Spotify and HiFi and all agree. Responses range from: Qobuz on Roon sounds like it’s more produced/compressed/not as much space or Qobuz on BluOS sounds airier/more space between instruments/crisp.

Seems like a Roon issue on the forum. I’ve got 6 days left in the trial; I’m only seeing value in the grouping/organizing aspect of the app at this point, which is awesome, but isn’t worth sacrificing SQ for.

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Each person makes their own value judgement.

And if you need more time to evaluate (14 days are short for complex software like Roon) you can take out a monthly subscription without breaking the bank.

As was mentioned above there are many existing threads about the topic with suggestions what to check for. Beware that they tend to get heated, which is why everyone is reluctant to start it over here.

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I can’t help but think that this shouldn’t be complicated. I honestly can’t think of a simpler setup (I suppose I could plug it in with USB, but being bit perfect, it shouldn’t matter) and the fact that Roon hasn’t weighed in on any of these threads in the #support forum is concerning (not that I can find at least - please point me to one if you know of any).

To give more detail: I volume-tested each sample, and to avoid construal, consistently tested with individuals alone, randomly picked the source for the first/second sample, and operated the apps from another room. All Roon defaults, no DSP, etc. Roon says lossless. BluOS says HiFi.

Only 4 tests, but no deviation in responses is pretty telling.

There’s something happening before RAAT if Roon works the way they say it does :person_shrugging:t2:. Disappointed, but not a huge deal I guess.

But yeah, there’s a lot out there in the forums, if anyone can point me in the right direction (toward the right thread, or an answer) I’m still interested in the figuring this out.

Hopefully Qobuz integrates UPnP and DLNA for Bluesound.

Thanks for your help! I’ll leave it there.

Really as stated previously, no one cares. I’m sure you are very excited to share but as you say, leave it there.