Tape vs High Res

Well if you are happy with 100+ years of the same principles used in recording and playback technology. Good for you…. What happens when you cross two waves of sound together? You get the clapotis effect.
Now with your 10 speakers in a room how are you going to mitigate the effect of that? Problems. Purist sound does not exist.

The RX-505E has a lot of that that functionality but tweaking dolby / bias / azimuth etc. wasn’t enough. My Primare SC15 Mk2 has analogue inputs so I was able to route through that and apply both DSP and room corrrection. I was surprised how much treble lift and base reduction the tapes needed. I also personally found most of them borderline unlistenable without turning dolby off and putting up with the tape hiss. I was so surprised I dug out some old vinyl rips I hadn’t listened to in a long while and also found them too soft and muddy compared with digital. The deck and the discs have long gone. That’s not the nostalgic way I prefer to remember my old analogue!

I like my Tape collection, mini disc collection, vinyl collection, cd collection, 78rpm collection dating to 1900. It would be sad to see the legacy of this media disappear for rented music services and digital files that have clear drawbacks. Eventually no one will own music and we will be slaves to the subscription based model.

Many do. There are many forums. But you do get that is a minority interest on a computer audio forum?

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My tapes and vinyl went when I emigrated to South Africa nearly 30 yrs ago

I was CD only until 2012 when I went digital only , never really looked back

Pretty much the same for me. But I just got an analogue itch I had to scratch.

I was working in the Gulf in the 1980’s where tape piracy was rife. Everything audiophile seems to have a hierarchy so even then there was much discussion about the best counterfeit brands down the souk. 40 years later those survived the best and sounded the best. Go figure. That was right at the transition to CD and what I remember then was pirated tapes in a decent deck was much better than CD. Digital had a long way to go but that was probably the reason for my nostalgia. 40 years later it has completely swapped around.

There are more formats than just digital each have their own advantages and disadvantages. I would not like to see the world totally digitised with no books or physical media because of the vulnerability of loosing or corrupting that data.

I think everyone would be more concerned about the cause of an EMP, than playing music. Indeed, such comments seems to be verging on the obsurd rather than staying on-topic – or clarifying what the topic actually is for that matter.

Moreover, your replies verge on trolling. Please remind yourself of the community guidelines, and stick to improving the conversation by staying on topic.

If you can’t reply without provoking those who have replied, the thread will be closed.

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What does trolling mean?

I have managed for well over 10 years with suitable backups there is little risk. Even then the files will still exist somewhere

Other than a few cookbooks I have zero books, I had my first reader for my 60th birthday 15 yrs ago and haven’t read a paper book since.

Similarly I digitised my CD and DVD libraries 12 yrs ago as I retired

I digitised my photographs well before that

I have zero media , and an uncluttered home , each to his own

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I file all my data on Blu-ray Discs just in case of a digital blackout. I do not trust the integrity of modern server farms with my data.

As an Engineer I have found that reading from books is a far better way to learn than reading from a computer or tablet device I have other fellow Engineers that confirm this with me.

There is something tangible about a book that I feel creates a better mind to source function that a digitised book cannot achieve.

The same can be said for solid state media, I use Roon with Tidal to find good music and then I buy it on vinyl because it sounds more lifelike and real.

If I have a virus like I did at the beginning of this year were I lost all my music on my Synology NAS drives with backups to usb. It took months to recover my data. Not all my cds were backed up to on Blu-ray and I am still in the process of ripping them back to AIFF with Dbpoweramp. Unfortunately some of these discs have bad sectors that cannot be recovered. So I have lost some tracks that I value.

The only way I can restore these tracks is to buy the cd again on the second hand market while hoping that the media purchased will be in pristine condition for ripping.

Buying new music in tangible form is better for the Artist as they are paid more and not stuck in a trap with profit sharing on a digital streaming service.

I also feel more of a link between the Artist and myself when I play their vinyl album. I do not know why there is such a link but there is knowing that I have given something back to the Artist.

That is why the Title is tape vs high res music. Tape is just one example of analog recordings and I think we should be careful what we throw away due to the forever moving wheels of modernity…

Maybe placing greater emphasis on probability rather than risk would be a better strategy. Use the original media for archival, and backups for securing digital media. IOW, make recovery simple and efficient with a focus on time to restore (the RTO.)

I too enjoy vinyl – I think cassettes are a marketing gimic that will fade – but I don’t buy this idea of being more analogue. Everything I listen to is analogue, and the vast majority of music nowadays, irrespective of media format, is from a digital source.

Indeed, if I take a recent preferred remaster of, for example, Crime of the Century it is an improvement on the original, but still excellent, vinyl release.

Whichever way anyone enjoys music is fine by me.

In my Vinyl days I would buy a new LP, play it once and record to either 7ips Revox or Metal Tape Nak and then listen the copy . Inevitably the play every day period dies down and I would then play the vinyl and re-use the tape for the next LP

That way I kept my vinyl as pristine as possible

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Yes, good way to go about it.

I would buy a album and on 1st play I either recorded it to cassette tape or reel-to-reel.

99% of the my albums going back to the early 70s have been played 5 times or less. I love tape and not that I paid much attention, but the sound seemed the same to me as the album. 8 track was plain junk.

–MD

@mjw I would have thought risk was the same as probability e.g. what is the probability or rolling a 3 on a dice or what is the risk of rolling 3 on a dice, Both are a 1 in 6 chance. Otherwise you seem to have some good ideas about the archival process.

No, risk and probability are not the same. Probability is the likelihood an event will happen, while risk often incorporates both probability and the severity or impact of the potential negative outcome.

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@Mr.Flibble has summed things up nicely. Using your examples, what is more likely: a computer virus or, a solar fare, nuclear war or asteroid impact? Evidently, the former has had quite some impact. The others, gods willing, may never happen.

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If that is so, how do you sum that as a mathematical unit? There is always the probability of a catastrophic event. The doomsday clock shows this. When one uses the word risk it is how the sentence is formulated that determines its meaning. E.g, what is the risk of rain tomorrow? The risk say is 90%. Or what is the risk of injury from a head on car accident at 30mph the risk could be severe injury or it could be a probability, but that would need to be defined in the sentence.

So in terms of what you are saying you are half right however in conventional language risk is used as a probability. Again in the example of rain tomorrow.

I hope that clears it up.

Incorrect in every sense.

The question is incorrect. What is the chance of rain tomorrow? Or what is the likelihood of rain tomorrow?

The likelihood of rain is 90%.

Rain isn’t a risk.

Incorrect in every sense.

If I stand on the top of a step ladder balancing on one leg whilst I work outside, there is a risk I could fall.

The likelihood increases if a gust of wind blows me off balance.

Edited: The probability of me getting badly hurt by standing on the top of a step ladder balancing on one leg in a strong wind is high.

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So I am correct in your second example risk is a probability. Thank you. I quite agree that it is used incorrectly, but this is common English, and switching words just to prove your point is very obviously the bending of the truth to fit your argument.