Being parasitic towards artists is why I cut down on buying used CDs and LPs and increased my buying of new LPs, CDs, and digital downloads. Far less parasitic.
Fair - I use bandcamp most of the time for music purchases, but old stuff from The Before Times you can only get from internet music shops or ebay
As a music lover, streaming services are indispensable to me. I discover and listen to new music almost on a daily basis, in the same or better quality than CD. I have about 3000 CDs ripped, and around 500 LPs, but cannot live without streaming, for the wealth of music exploration and listening. A few of my friends still only listen to the same few CDs, year after year, and it almost breaks my heart. One should have the discipline to prioritise an album and listen to it.
A Plexamp feature that I would love to see in Roon is the option to sort albums as ‘Random’. I can invariably find something near the top of the list that it perfect for that moment, and it helps me rediscover some gems that I may have forgotten about. For perspective, I’ve got about 5000 albums and concerts in my local library, plus another 1000 or so that I’ve flagged as favorites in Qobuz.
There are several existing feature suggestions for this, where you can add your vote (ideally to the one that already has the most votes, so that it sticks out)
https://community.roonlabs.com/search?q=%23feedback%3Afeature-suggestions%20album%20random
Thanks, I added my vote for the one with the most votes.
I guess the classic discover feature in roon was meant to serve that purpose but somehow I never find anything as it is too random for me and my taste to broad.
If I am in the mood for a random listen, I use the album overview, sort by release date or import date and focus on a particular top-level genre. Always works for me as through scrolling to randomly find some albums in your library (similar size to yours).
I do wish they would revisit Discover. I don’t use it as often anymore and use shuffle mostly for randomness then play an album next after a track that really lands.
Proprio per i motivi che hai detto Io preferisco avere una libreria abbastanza limitata su Qobuz (circa 800 titoli) e prima di aggiungere un album lo valuto attentamente.
Utilizzo Roon da parecchio e con grande soddisfazione e spero che Roon ponga sempre fra i suoi obiettivi quello della qualità di ascolto!
Ne approfitto per aggiungere una mia considerazione a margine sul modo in cui ci si approccia alla musica.
Sono convinto che ci sia una grande differenza fra ‘ASCOLTARE’ musica e ’SENTIRE’ musica: sentire musica lo si può fare guidando, facendosi la barba, leggendo un libro, ballando, etc…;’ascoltare’ musica, per me, vuol dire invece provare un’esperienza che si avvicina molto alla meditazione: rilassare il corpo (soprattutto i muscoli del viso), liberare la mente, chiudere gli occhi, diventare trasparenti e lasciarsi ‘attraversare’ dai suoni.
Occorre inoltre osservare che quello che ascoltiamo, a parità di incisione e amplificazione, è l’insieme composto da qualità dei diffusori + ambiente + stato psico-fisico (provate ad esempio ad ascoltare musica quando avete qualche preoccupazione, o siete raffreddati… cambia tutto).
Ormai la diffusione della musica liquida, con l’uso di strumenti di bassa qualità, porta molti ad accontentarsi a ‘sentire’ musica e a perdere l’educazione al vero ascolto.
La musica liquida ci offre una grande opportunità, ma va gestita con saggezza!
@SandsOfArrakis I wanted to add the following link when I wrote the above but couldn’t find it then, so here’s a late addition:
You should keep your eye on estate sales and auctions. I pick up lots CD’s and other stuff for the audio room. Interestingly enough most of the audio equipment has been grabbed by my wife of 40 years. She says I ruined her ears!
She can’t listen to music any where but home. LOL
I make most of my ‘discoveries’ on Radio Paradise channels. Or I’ll just listen for hours. Bill really does create some nice auditory journeys with lesser known tracks of lesser known artists. He and his wife split and now his daughter is helping shape the future. 2050 has some very interesting people discussing deeper than average topics.
Too much choice can be paralyzing and comparison is the thief of joy ![]()
The history is quite the story. He was a pioneer in streaming and arguably still is. Radio Paradise - Wikipedia
I thought I’d revive this thread with an update.
The recent unpleasantness with Qobuz’s “date added” mess and mass replacement of titles (with loss of my edits and tags) motivated me to clean out my Qobuz library in Roon. There were so many titles I never listened to since adding them. I ended up reducing my Qobuz library from about 1800 titles [albums] to about 580 titles [albums].
I haven’t missed anything since doing so, and my library feels less overwhelming and more manageable now. ![]()
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Did a similar thing some 2 or 3 years ago, and can absolutely confirm your personal impression.
Once the ´not my core collection´ albums are out, you almost never miss them. And if so, with ´discography´ integration of Qobuz´ catalogue on the artist´s page, it is pretty convenient and easy to find them.
Interesting question what is your personal ´sweet spot´ of library size? I feel that up to 2,000 albums is manageable, but I have a classical and a non-classical library of roughly that size which adds up to 4,000.
Ditto. When Qobuz / Roon kept repopulating albums I had removed, I had to start over, loosing 6-7 years play history etc., I decided to only add local media to my library, and use streaming solely for discovery.
I’m still rebuilding my library, and have a few hundred disks to rip, which will take me to ~2k albums.
Nowadays, I use Listen Later to decide if an album is a keeper, and add far fewer albums to my library. I think this is more manageable, and hopefully, fewer rarely or never played releases.
Right now I’m at 1502 albums (933 local, 569 Qobuz), which feels pretty manageable.
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The recent Qobuz issues has me rethinking how I use it. The addition of “Listen Later” has been a great tool for trying new titles without adding them to my library.
Good question. As of today, I am at 9,750 albums, 90% of which is classical and opera, and over 8,000 are ripped or downloaded LPs or CDs. Definitely far too much, but it’s the result of a lifetime of collecting. For some (fairly obvious) reason, Roon response times slow down when you have over 9,000 albums, so I need to start pruning the collection. Incidentally, listening to one of my more obscure albums yielded a comic gem for all Roon community members who occasionally obsess about hi-fi and technology more than music - “A Song of Reproduction” by Flanders and Swann. Wonderful stuff from 1959, available on Tidal and Qobuz.
I don’t think the real issue is about having too music music in our libraries, either local or via streaming services.
It’s choosing what to play that I think is the real issue here.
My wife has over 100 pairs of shoes but only wears 5 pairs on a regular basis. She tells me they’re 5 very comfortable pairs that she doesn’t want to wear the others.
Whilst I could easily reduce my library in size to albums I’m comfortable with, it becomes the issue of where do you stop.
It’s partly the reason why I created my Roon extension, which revolves around albums picked at random.
A vast number of albums I’ve listened to recently have been ones I haven’t listened to in years as a result of this Roon extension and other developments I’m involved in. It’s refreshing to listen to them again.
It is so true , also as a classical fan try Ill Wind of the partner album , I bought it literally years ago, (at least 30) as a triple box .
Good British humour for the aged !!
Wonderful stuff. The rendition of a Mozart horn concerto in “Ill WInd” is absolutely brilliant. On a related note, Bryn Terfel used to sing “The Gas Man Cometh” as one of his standard concert encores. His amazing voice and deep Welsh accent combined to make the song even funnier. I have an off-air recording from the BBC, but I don’t think we can share music on this forum, unfortunately.


