Tracks or albums do not appear in Recent Activity-Played screen (ref#BTLN48)

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· When I initiate playing a track or album from the Queue, the played track/album does not appear in the Recent Activity-Played screen

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As mentioned, If I initiate playback from a track or album, it will appear in the Recent Activity-Played screen. However, if I first add a track or album to the Queue, then initiate playback from the Queue, it, or any subsequent tracks/abums in the Queue that play, will not appear in the Recent Activity-Played screen.

The behavior is the same whether the track/album originates from my streaming service (Qobuz) or my local collection.

If it matters, all tracks/albums played do appear in the My History screen as expected.

I tried rebooting, but that did not change the behavior. I also tried disabling (then rebooting) Scheduled Background Work, but that didn’t make any difference (I suspected it wouldn’t but didn’t know what else to try).

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Something else that seems odd…

I just tried playing a track from Qobuz (I didn’t add it to the queue) that gave the error message, “not available in Qobuz”, and despite the fact that it did not play (of course), it still shows up in Recent Activity-Played as if it did play.

And for me (with EA 1644) the behavior when playing from the queue is a bit different but also odd:

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Thank you for taking the time to write in and share your reports @Saturn94 @Suedkiez, it looks like we’re able to reproduce a variant of this behavior internally as well.

We’ve escalated this to our development team and will follow up with more information as soon as possible. :folded_hands:

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@Saturn94 @Suedkiez I’m curious about the following:

Test this specific sequence:

  1. Find a Qobuz album that is already in your Roon library
  2. Add it to the Queue
  3. Play it from the Queue
  4. Check Recent Activity
If it does appear, that could confirm that the issue is specifically about tracks that haven't been added to your library before being queued. If it still doesn't appear, this could be broader and queue-initiated plays are categorically excluded from the feed regardless of library status.

Thank you!

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My test was with several albums that were all local

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Got it, thanks @Suedkiez! That confirms this is not a missing data problem. We’ll follow up with more info once development has taken a closer look. :+1:

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Following those steps, it does not appear in Recent Activity - Played.

In my case, the source of the file does not matter. Whether a local file, a Qobuz favorite in my library, or a Qobuz title not in my library, if playback is initiated from the Queue, it will not appear in Recent Activity - Played.

EDIT: See my post (#13) where I repeated this test with different results.

This seems to be the case for me (see my above post).

Today the behavior changed somewhat.

Out of 4 albums (1 single, 3 full albums), 3 eventually showed up in Recent Activity (the 3 full albums showed up after several tracks in each played, the “Single” one track album did not show up at all. All 4 albums are files in my local library.

The only thing that’s changed since I reported this issue is last night I updated the Archlinux OS on my Salkstream.

More testing tonight…

If I add an entire album to the Queue and play from the beginning, after playing about 3-4 tracks the album will appear in Recent Activity.

If I add an album released as a “Single” (ie only 1 track on the album), or, if I add a single track from a regular album, it will not appear in Recent Activity.

The source doesn’t seem to matter (local file, Qobuz Favorite in my library, Qobuz title not in my library).

I hope this helps to identify the issue and a solution. :crossed_fingers:

I just repeated the steps you listed, this time adding a complete album to the queue (see my post above about albums vs singles).

This time, after 3 tracks played (and while 4th track was playing), it appeared in Recent Activity.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the updates @Saturn94! There’s certainly some odd behavior occurring, and our development team is taking a closer look into things.

We’ll be back in touch in case we need additional information, and or we have updates to share from our end.

Thanks for the ongoing patience here!

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Hi @Saturn94,

Thanks for your patience. This is a subtle play action distinction.

Certain triggers will add an object to the Recently Added carousel, mostly actual play actions (Play Now → etc.) .

This particular queuing action is not currently a trigger. We’re going to confirm what the expected behavior is for this condition and we’ll follow up shortly.

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I wouldn’t expect that the queuing as such adds to the Recently Played, after all queueing does not mean that it actually gets played. However, it’s weird that subsequent playing from the queue doesn’t add the played items immediately to Recently Played in the way that playing them directly does.

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I want to make sure I’m clear here.

As @Suedkiez stated, the issue isn’t what happens when simply adding something to the Queue, it’s what doesn’t happen, as described in earlier posts, when something is actually played from the Queue (see posts #12 and #13).

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More info…

Today I noticed play initiated from a bookmark also does not appear in Recent Activity.

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There’s no misunderstanding here.

Playing an item by adding it to the queue and letting the queue progress is not a play action that currently triggers the carousel. This is the current implementation, and it is because queue progress is not a user-initiated action. This is somewhere between bug and implementation depending on your perspective, which is why it has been escalated to the Product team for distinction.

A play initiated from a bookmark is a user-initiated play action. Per the guidelines above this should qualify more easily to be a trigger. We’ll ensure this gets ticketed, as well.

These play action inconsistencies likely aren’t new, but they’ve never been fundamentally addressed. We’ll respond with something more authoritative once the team reviews this.

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Thank you for the clarification. It appears the “Recent Activity” feature isn’t what I and others thought it was. From my viewpoint, it comes across as a bug or oversight.

Regarding the behavior with Bookmarks, I should have explained in more detail as I seeing two different behaviors depending on exactly what I do.

  1. Select the Bookmark icon at top of Home page, select a bookmark, select Play Now (or Shuffle) at top right of screen. Items played do not appear in Recent Activity.

  2. Select the Bookmark icon at top of Home screen, select a Bookmark, select a track within the Bookmark, select Play Now. Item played immediately appears in Recent Activity.

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