Unable to Connect Qobuz to Nucleus One despite multiple resets (ref#9NOLH4)

What is the operating system of your Roon Server host machine?

· Nucleus

What kind of device are you using to perform the login?

· Mac

Where are you trying to login?

· I can't log into TIDAL, KKBox or nugs

Have you been redirected to the Tidal/KKBOX/nugs login page in your browser?

· No

Please try to restart your Roon Server by closing the Roon Server app in the taskbar (MacOS), task manager (Windows) or rebooting your Roon Server machine.

· No, the issue remains the same

Different device

· I cannot switch to a different device

Are you still facing the issue on the different device

· No, the issue remains the same

Record the timestamp

· Issue raised from one month (very roughly). I dont know how to see my time zone, sorry

Describe the issue

Impossible to connect QOBUZ to my Nucleus One, even after QOBUZ password changing, Nucleus one Operating System reinstalling, Roon server software restarting, Roon Database & Settings reseting and Hardware rebooting...?
Many thanks for your help !

Describe your network setup

Preamp-DAC-Streamer Bryston BR-20 and Nucleus One Roon server are both ethernet connected via an UGREEN Switch Ethernet Gigabit 5 Ports Commutateur RJ45 10 100 1000Mbps.

Nucleus One equipped with a 2.5" SATA SSD for my music storage.

Hi @gilles_Dantu,

Thank you for your post and we’re sorry you’re having sync issues with Qobuz.

Are you able to login to Qobuz directly (through their app or website) on any of your Roon Remotes on this network?

What do you see when you attempt to sign into Qobuz in Roon Settings → Services → Qobuz? Does the dialog window hang, or do you get an error?

For due diligence, please restart the Nucleus One completely after closing Roon on all of your devices.

We’ll watch for your reply. Thank you!

Hi, thanks for your answer.

The issue is cleared this morning…! Surprising as it was present yesterday night…

What did you do ?

Hi, bad news from yesterday evening, connection to Qobuz doesnt work again…??? Waiting for your help, please.

BR, Gilles

Note that connection to TIDAL works well !

Please post screenshots as @connor requested:

I have the following message:

Hello @gilles_Dantu

Gilles, we pulled the logs from your Nucleus One and the answer is clear. This is not a Roon problem, and the work you have already done on the Nucleus was not needed.

What Qobuz is telling us. Every failed sign-in gets the same answer back from Qobuz itself:

401 Invalid username/email and password combination

That is Qobuz rejecting the email and password, not Roon failing to reach Qobuz. Each of those requests completed in under a third of a second, so your Nucleus, your switch and your internet connection are all doing their job. Tidal working confirms the same thing.

One sign-in did work. On August 20 at 11:00 in your local time, the sign-in succeeded and your Qobuz library synced completely: 55 albums, 786 tracks, your playlist and your favorites. That is the moment you described as the problem clearing on its own.

It then stopped about four hours later. At 15:20 the saved session was refused by Qobuz and Roon was signed out. Every attempt since then has been rejected with that same message.

So the account works with the Nucleus. Something about the password being sent after that point is not what Qobuz expects.

One question, and it is the important one. Did you change your Qobuz password again during the afternoon of August 20? If you did, that would explain this exactly: the change would end the session that was working, and Roon would then be sending the old password.

Please try this before anything else. Open a browser and sign in at

using the exact same email and password you are entering in Roon.

If the website refuses it too, the problem is with your Qobuz account and Qobuz support are the ones who can fix it. Please also check there that your subscription is active.

If the website accepts your password, please clear Roon’s cache before trying again. This clears the stored Qobuz session, which is what was refused when Roon tried to reconnect on its own. It does not touch your library, your playlists or your settings.

  • In the Nucleus web interface, please stop Roon Server:
    https://kb.roonlabs.com/RoonOS_web
  • On your Mac, open Finder and connect to smb://NUCLEUSONE/Data, using Guest as both the username and the password. Full instructions are here:
    https://help.roonlabs.com/portal/en/kb/articles/database-location
  • Open the RoonServer folder, then Cache
  • Move everything inside Cache to your desktop. Please move it rather than delete it, so we can put it back if needed
  • Start Roon Server again from the web interface, then try signing in to Qobuz

If the sign-in still fails after that, please tell us and we will take it from there.

Two things worth checking while you are there. Please type the password by hand rather than pasting it, since a pasted value can carry an invisible space at the end. And please confirm the exact spelling of your email address, including capital letters, because one of the attempts we can see used a slightly different version of it.

And please stop reinstalling. Reinstalling the Nucleus operating system and resetting the Roon database cannot affect this.

Hi, Thank you for your message.

I have performed all the indicated steps and the sign-in to Qobuz still fails…

Hello @gilles_Dantu

Qobuz is still rejecting the password, so there is nothing left to do on the Nucleus.

We need one answer from you, and it is the one thing not yet covered. When you sign in at

in a browser, with the same password you type into Roon, does the website let you in?

Please tell us yes or no, because the two answers lead in opposite directions.

In the meantime, the most useful thing you can do is reset your Qobuz password from that website. When you set the new one, please choose something with only letters and numbers, no accented or special characters. Then type it into Roon by hand rather than pasting it.

Special characters are worth ruling out because your keyboard may not produce the same character Qobuz stored, and that would look exactly like a wrong password from our side.

My answer to your question is yes.

I try to change my password as you indicates and I come back to you.

Con’td

I just have changed my password, still fails…

Hi,

connection to Qobuz runs well from yesterday as I did not make anything previously… !? Do you have an idea about the reason ?

I will contact you if it fails again.

Thanks in any case

Hi,

Qobuz connection fails again…!?

Thanks for your support again as well.

Hey @gilles_Dantu,

Thanks for the update! From a fresh review of Roon Server logs, it looks like you may have only attempted to log into Qobuz using your email address.

If you can, try using your account username rather than email address.

With that, please also bring your Nucleus back online and we’ll enable a fresh diagnostics to take another look. Thank you!

To add a little more context here, Qobuz can potentially return this malformed account error if you’re signing in to a legacy Qobuz account from a newer email address. We need to verify if the Qobuz username itself (not the email) can return the account record via their API. This will identify the next step to resolve this issue.

Thanks a lot for your messages that I will apply as soon as the connection Qobuz will fail again as for the moment it runs !? as I did not make anything…:upside_down_face:

Thanks Connor as well :+1: