Hello @mookr
Please keep us posted on the progress here.
Hello @mookr
Please keep us posted on the progress here.
Some quick updates. I’ve been able to do some limited testing this weekend. So far:
the restore worked as of end of July
listen later and history, etc. show as of end of July (obviously)
the local music stats/info seem tied to storage location as they were not restored
Roon ARC, oddly, would not auto-configure, as it did do with ROCK. I had to manually add the port-forwarding (nothing has changed wrt the network)
So, brief summary:
Hello @mookr ,
Glad to hear that the previous backup worked (mostly) ok.
Is Roon by any chance seeing (or did see) duplicate storage locations? If roon sees duplicate files, it will treat the duplicates as “new” and they will not have any previously associated metadata edits.
Hi @noris
I may not have been clear. I have multiple versions of some albums and they are not yet grouped, so everything is showing as multiple tracks and multiple albums. I have local + Qobuz with some album (but different version) overlaps.
Also, to answer your question: I’ve only (ever) had one storage location. When restoring this last backup, there were no storage locations defined (new mount point relative to backup).
Hi @mookr,
Do you by chance have ‘Show hidden tracks and albums’ enabled in your Roon Settings>General?
See if disabling this setting helps remove the unwanted duplicates. ![]()
Hi @benjamin
That setting was enabled, yes. (Don’t recall the why or when for that, tbh.)
I’m not entirely sure of the result. On the main Home screen, the numbers under tracks and albums have not changed, but when you go into those sections, the totals show as decreased. In addition, I do see multiple albums in the album list – the couple that I’ve checked suggest that these are grouped versions.
With different numbers showing and multiple albums showing in the list (vs. e.g. just the primary), I’m wondering if this is my expectations bumping into standard behavior, or if there is still something “off” with the setup. Not sure. But, I will admit I’m not 100% confident in what my collection “now is”, if that makes sense.
I have to ask - any luck with the diagnosing of my corrupt backup?
Thanks.
Hi @mookr,
to check whether your backup has been properly restored, go to
settings > libray > library cleanup.
if you see large numbers in one of the bottom two categories that match the track count of your local files, your database hasn‘t been properly restored and the local music files have beeb treated as new instead of being reassociated with your database backup:
This is what happened to me when moving from ROCK with internal storage to DietPi as described in the support thread linked in one of my earlier posts.
If you see all zeros there as in my screenshot, everything worked as it should have. But judging from your posts i highly doubt this to be the case. Most likely you‘re encounteted the exact same (unresolved) issue i did.
Working around this is possible, but painful and would require extra hardware (external USB drive and second M2 SSD) and going back to ROCK once more to prepare the migration by moving the local music files to an external storage, reassociating those with the database and creating a fresh database backup to restore from with the DietPi as described in the above mentioned support thread…
In case you want to go down this route and need assistance, feel free to contact me via PM!
Regards,
Roland
Thanks for the insights. Fortunately, my maintenance screen shows zero to clean-up, so perhaps I don’t have to go through what you unfortunately did.
I think what I’m experiencing may be the standard experience if one changes the source path for the music storage location (that said, I’m not sure if this happens if you do not also change OS e.g. if backup/restore only to ROCK, but change music location).
At this point, I’m looking to see how I can get a “clean” view of my library or, rather, how I can get it to be how I want it to be. My preferred approach is to have a single view of an album and its associated tracks at the top level i.e. what I see in the Albums and Tracks view and access grouped versions from an album as needed.
I thought that was how it was presenting before I changed to DietPi, but am starting to second-guess myself now ![]()
But, I can still play music, which is the main thing ![]()
Hello @mookr
Would you kindly clarify whether you have added a new path or modified the existing ones after restoring the backup?
Hi @vadim
After the restore, there was no local storage location set, so I added a storage location to point to my music files.
The ssd and contents have not changed, but the mount point has (backup on ROCK, restore on Dietpi).
Thanks.