Unexpected 'loop all' added to play queue in Roon (ref#I8GELR) [Roon Investigating]

What best describes your playback issue?

· The queue often activates 'loop all' when I'm starting playback. This appears to happen at random.

What type of Zone is affected by this problem?

· *All of my Zones* are affected.

Does the issue affect all file formats?

· The issue affects *multiple/all* file formats.

Does the issue happen with local library music, streaming service music, or both?

· *Both streaming and local* *library* music are affected.

Do you encounter any playback errors with the "System Output" Zone?

· The System Output has the same problem as my other Zone.

Do you have a complex network setup?

· Both the device and RoonServer are connecting to a *single router*

Please try rebooting your router.

· No, I'm still having trouble

Do you have an approximate timestamp of when the issue last occurred?

· Today, Sept 11 2025, 1:15PM

What are the make and model of the affected audio device(s) and the connection type?

· Lyngdorf TDAI 1120 to Yamaha NS-2000A, but also playback to both laptop, tablet and phone

Describe the issue

Roon randomly adds 'loop all' to play queue

Describe your network setup

Router only

Hey @eye,

Thanks for writing in and for sharing your report! From a fresh diagnostics Roon Server report, we can see the loop commands are being reported as coming from the endpoint device (your Lyngdorf TDAI-1120), not from the Roon Server machine:

[raatclient] GOT [4] {"status":"Success","control":{"button":"loop_all"}}
[zone] Lyngdorf received transport control from endpoint integration: loop_all

A few areas to check:

  • If you also control the TDAI-1120 through the Lyngdorf Remote App (iOS/Android), check whether it has a repeat/loop mode enabled.
  • Disable repeat/loop inside the Lyngdorf app to see if it stops sending loop_all to Roon.
  • Check that your TDAI-1120 firmware is fully up to date (Lyngdorf does issue stability updates).
  • Consider a factory reset of the TDAI-1120, then re-add it to Roon.

We’ll be on standby for your reply and results - thank you! :raising_hands:

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Hello @benjamin
Thank you for the log data. I was using Lyngdorf Remote in the past and am using the My Lyngdorf app now - but only for configuration, switching inputs or volume adjustments. I don’t think I’ve used the repeat button, except for maybe when I just got the amp. The ‘loop all’ issue seems to occur pretty much at random, only when playing music from Roon.

I’ll do some more check-ups when the issue reoccurs.

I’m guessing it’s likely the issue will re-occur if I perform a factory reset and then restore my back-up?

Hi @eye,

We’ve captured several instances in logs where the Lyngdorf Zone sends a burst of changes to both shuffle and loop within a single second.

Unless there’s accidental pressure on a tacticle switch of a remote control (someone sitting on it, etc), these commands from the Zone are erroneous.

The evidence suggests these commands don’t originate within RoonServer - they are transport commands sent from the Lyngdorf endpoint itself, originating within its Roon/RAAT implementation.

Have you reached out to the manufacturer to report this symptom?

We’ll investigate internally in the meantime and let you know our results.

Hello @connor
I can confirm it’s also occured with shuffle. This morning it was a ‘loop 1’ when playing a single track - and no remote in sight :slight_smile: I’ll get in touch with Lyngdorf. Interested in what the results are from your side!

Hello @connor
Could it be I’ve also had a few random pauses over the past few weeks this way? My playback stopped suddenly about 10minutes ago (10pm)

Hello @eye

Thank you for the update.

To confirm, we have requested the diagnostic data from your server, but it seems to be offline.
Would you kindly bring it back online and let us know here?

Hello @vadim thanks, it’s online now

Hey @eye,

Thanks for that! We’re seeing some odd RAATServer-related errors that could be playing a role in the behavior you’re seeing (around playback stopping at least) - let’s see if refreshing your RAATServer helps.

You can generate a new RAATServer instance on your device by following these instructions, but please be aware that this will reset your Roon Settings -> Audio Tab to factory settings and I would advise making a backup of any custom DSP settings you have:

  • Create a Backup of your current Roon database
  • Exit out of Roon
  • Navigate to your Roon’s Database Location
  • Find the folder that says “RAATServer”
  • Rename the “RAATServer” folder to “RAATServer_old”
  • Restart the Roon App to generate a new RAATServer folder

Let me know if the above helps, thank you! :folded_hands:

Hello @benjamin
When I logged in to my Roon server, I noticed Windows displayed a firewall notification - it had tried blocking the RAATServer. Could this be related? I’ve followed your steps. Could you check whether this changed anything?
My Audio Tab has been reset, but all zones are still there as before. Only the icon for my Lyngdorf TDAI-1120 has now defaulted to a headphone icon :person_shrugging:

Hello @eye,

When you recreated the RAATServer folder, it reset your audio device settings. That’s why the Lyngdorf TDAI-1120 has reverted to the default headphone icon. You can update the icon again by going into the Device Setup menu for that zone.

Also, Roon should normally be listed as an exception in your Windows Firewall by default. You can double-check the setup here:
:backhand_index_pointing_right: Roon Firewall Help

Please give that a try and let us know if you’re still seeing any odd behavior.

Hello @vadim
Thanks! I restored the back-up :slight_smile:

I’ve double checked my firewall settings and Roon Server was missing from the exceptions, so I’ve added it.

So far, I haven’t experienced neither the loop issue nor the random pauses. Fingers crossed!

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Thanks for the update @eye - let us know how the next 24 hours goes!:+1:

Hello @benjamin
I think I’ve had the random pause issue a few minutes ago

Hello @eye,

Thank you for following up. Unfortunately, “a few minutes ago” isn’t quite enough for us to pinpoint the issue in the logs. Could you please share the exact timestamp (including date and time) when the random pause occurred, or the track name that was playing at the time?

Also, just to confirm, could you let us know your time zone so we can align the logs correctly?

This information will help us narrow down the cause and move forward with the investigation.

Hello @vadim
This was between 8:22 and 9:22 AM CEST (GMT+02:00). The track was ‘stupid’ by Bogdan Raczynski.

Hello @vadim
The loop all issue has just occured again. 22:10 GMT+2, track ‘Reet Petite’ by Jackie Wilson

And now (7:50PM) again. I queued several tracks separately, then it started looping them starting with Toasty - The Knowledge

Sorry for the spam, but it’s happened again - so now constantly when queueing tracks. This time with the minced oath album. All tracks were already duplicated in queue straight away.

I will be off the grid for about two weeks starting tomorrow - will we be able to pick up this thread after?

Hello @eye

Thank you for your patience, and sorry for the delay in the response.

09/22 19:54:44 Trace: [Lyngdorf] [Enhanced, 16/44 QOBUZ FLAC => 16/44] [100% buf] [PLAYING @ 1:33/5:05] The Knowledge - Toasty
09/22 19:54:45 Trace: GetImageData[Remote](id=1162640 spec=1024 key=ywdocaaa) => got from cache overalltime=0ms
09/22 19:54:45 Trace: GetImageData[Remote](id=1162640 spec=1024 key=ywdocaaa) => got from cache overalltime=1ms
09/22 19:54:48 Trace: GetImageData[Remote](id=86715 spec=256 key=fhyeaaaa) => got from cache overalltime=0ms
09/22 19:54:48 Trace: GetImageData[Remote](id=86715 spec=256 key=fhyeaaaa) => got from cache overalltime=0ms
09/22 19:54:48 Trace: GetImageData[Remote](id=1036247 spec=256 key=rxygcaaa) => got from cache overalltime=0ms
09/22 19:54:48 Trace: GetImageData[Remote](id=1036247 spec=256 key=rxygcaaa) => got from cache overalltime=0ms
09/22 19:54:48 Trace: GetImageData[Remote](id=1162640 spec=256 key=ywdocaaa uri=https://imagecache.roonlabs.net/im/1/albums/c800717738666e616d7a7564306761/cover/256.jpg) => fetched in 211ms status=200 size=5447 overalltime=214ms
09/22 19:54:48 Trace: GetImageData[Remote](id=1173027 spec=256 key=lgtocaaa uri=https://imagecache.roonlabs.net/im/1/albums/3e011bcc99a0f888c94181bd79a19d1fd2aa/cover/256.jpg) => fetched in 386ms status=304 size=0 overalltime=410ms


09/22 19:54:48 Trace: [zone Lyngdorf] SetLoopLoopOne

From the logs, we can confirm that the loop settings are coming from the Lyngdorf device during the playback of the song. We clearly see the command SetLoopLoopOne.

We already escalated it with our partner’s team to Lyngdorf. Please feel free to reach out to them from your side.

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