WhenYou add music to Library and Roon doesn’t recognize it. Does Roon try to do it again for example next month ?
Most albums should get identified, but some may not (if they are not known on TiVo/AllMusic or MusicBrainz). If these are not very obscure albums, it is possible that your file tags are not correct.
It’s also possible that you can identify it manually by clicking on the Unidentified link on the album page in Roon, or on (…) > Edit > Identify.
It retries regularly, probably daily, in case the album is added to TiVo/AllMusic or MusicBrainz.
Has anyone figured out how to segregate all of the Unidentified albums to a different Storage Location? I’m guessing modified Excel file.
Should be doable with a CSV export and some scripting, or exporting to Excel and using VBA.
VBA? What is that?
Visual Basic for Applications, the programming language built into Microsoft Office applications.
Of course it’s annoying in either case if you’re not used to writing code. In this case, if it’s not a huge amount of albums it will be easier to move them manually.
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Thanks.
918 Unidentified albums. Why scripting? Can I not use the same “edit the Excel file” we’re forced to use to create a useful M3U file?
(I haven’t tried this yet, which is why I’m asking.)
OK, that’s going to be annoying to move manually, too. At least if they are not all in one “Grateful Dead Live” folder or something 
I don’t think I get it. How are you going to move the actual files to the new storage location (without reading their locations from an exported CSV/Excel file and then moving them with a script)?
Hmm, I guess (and maybe this is what you mean) you can use the “Export local media” option from an “unidentified” Focus selection. This would at least create a copy of all the selected albums into a new folder that you can move to the new location. But then you would still be left with the task of deleting the original files from the original location.
Maybe I’m being slow, it’s late here …
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I was thinking Focus>Unidentified>Select all>Export to Excel>Modify Excel file so it points at correct directories
Oh. I see the problem. I wonder if one of the LLMs could write me a script based on the modified Excel file.
It’s scary but it just might be able to
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Maybe I can create a new Swinsian Database, add an M3U of the albums/songs, and then Consolidate Library to a new location.
Yeah, I guess something like this could work too.
If using an LLM, I don’t even know if you’d have to modify the Excel file. It might just work to give it a prompt roughly like “read column X, Y, and Z in the Excel file A to find artists in X, their albums in Y, and associated storage paths in Z. Write a script that can be used on Windows/Mac to find all of these albums at the provided storage paths and move them to a new folder B. Be absolutely sure not to delete anything while working on such a script”
Just be sure to first make a copy of your music folder to test this on!
Hahahahahahaha! 13 Terabytes of files to copy.
(Actually, i have a complete backup on a separate drive.)
I’m looking for the Excel>M3U mod instructions right now. No LLM needed.
You know I was thinking the other day. Roon has more money now. Using Discogs as a source of Metadata would would provide a great amount of data for obscure music.
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Totally agree!
Vote for it:
I have over 1,100 unidentified titles in Roon. Most are CD singles, 12” singles, etc so if ever it pulls from Discogs or somewhere else with a decent database of singles it would greatly reduce my issues with Roon.
If you have unidentified music, it’s likely that your id3 tags are very bad or non existent. Change that, and you’ll never have an issue.
This is not entirely correct. Of course, you are right that if the tags are missing, Roon will have a difficult time figuring out what it might be, and this can lead to unidentified albums even if the album is in principle known on MusicBrainz or TiVo.
However, beyond this the “identified” status in Roon still depends on whether the release is known on MusicBrainz or TiVo at all. You can have correct tags as much as you want, if the album is NOT in these services’ databases, it will be considered unidentified. And while the databases are vast, the music output of humankind is bigger still, and there are many albums that are not there. (The solution, if one is bothered by this, is adding the album to MusicBrainz).
Fair enough, but I bet a million £ that @Pat_Taylor’s “issues with Roon” are more to do with their poorly tagged files than anything else.