Vertical scrolling [Done in Roon 1.8]

It’s a pity, but Roon doesn’t support Windows OS scrolling at the moment. Windows supports vertical and (!) horizontal scrolling for the mouse and touchpad, etc…And Roon ignores it and supports only the horizontal scrolling (mouse, touchpad, scroll buttons) for both horizontal and vertical scrolling commands with the mouse scroll rad, touchpad moves or the scroll buttons. I have a hope that it change one day.

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Frankly, horizontal scrolling is a huge pain for me. Even a deal breaker.
Furthermore, to see that after 4 months of multiple requests the dev team is MIA…

Not paying a yearly mmb until this is fixed. Ridiculous.

Soon team: rule of soft dev #1: use what your users know. Many of us use iTunes: VERTICAL.
Don’t make us adapt to your didkat.

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Well said Jaques!

Way more than 4 months BTW.

For this who think resources should be reserved for ‘More important’ things, I say the UI is the import part of any app / software and this is just plain wrong

Cheers Robert

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+1 for vertical scrolling

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+1 for not caring

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[quote=“Jacques_Racine, post:72, topic:821”]
Roon team: rule of soft dev #1: use what your users know. Many of us use iTunes: VERTICAL.Don’t make us adapt to your didkat.
[/quote]Many of us came for a Sooloos background and are quite comfortable with horizontal scrolling.
As always on forums et al, it those with a gripe that make the most noise … whilst the silent majority that are happy are well … silent.

I do endorse choice provided it does not result in a lowest common denominator and compromise the user experience. Attempting to be all things to all men leads to madness. I acknowledge that it’s Roon’s product and they ultimately decide the look, feel and functionality. It’s right and proper that we the user can make suggestion … but they are only suggestions … there is no right that they have to be acted upon.

That said, I think someone from Roon (@Mike @Danny) should comment … and either say this is on the roadmap or … sorry guys it’s our design choice and is how it is and then we would all know were we are.

Jaques, coming from a Soolos background is irrelevant to Roon’s future. The Soolos user base was and is minuscule with no growth prospects, one of the reasons Roon broke away from Meridian.

Your comment on ‘noise’ is the opposite of the reality, those who complain on forums or who bother to write, represent a huge number of users who are too lazy or busy to complain, but are likely to leave Roon or not renew their subs.

Now that Audirvana streams Qobuz and Amara Tidal is out, there is a lot more competition with lots more coming from manufacturers app like Arcam MusicLife and Naim’s Mu-so.

If Roon want to grow, attract and keep new customers, especially at these high prices they need listen to their users.

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Why don’t you do a poll and see which way the vote goes then if so confident of one or the other.

+1 on not bothered.

Russ

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I think the idea with feature requests is for those who are keen for a request to comment with a like, +1, comment etc - but others adding comments like “not bothered” etc just clutters the threads and isn’t that helpful. Just my 2c - want to see the forums remain productive
:smiley:

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Personally, I think it is perfectly OK for people to share views that don’t agree. This is a feature request and will ultimately compete for development time. If we allow only “I agree” posts then it doesn’t reflect the balance of views needed to make a good decision.

So, when someone posts “It’s a deal breaker” it is reasonable to also read that “It doesn’t bother me”.

Just don’t get personal.

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I don’t see the point of arguing which is better (personally I’m for vertical). Just give the user the option to choose either one and then everyone is happy…

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I vote for diagonal scrolling.

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How can these issues cause such debate?

I installed Roon on my daughter’s iPad mini yesterday and she immediately picked it up, issues a few “cools”, was impressed with sub genres, protopunk particularly.

She’s 18, has only used iTunes and Spotify.

Strangely enough she knew how to scroll straight away.

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< on the Naim forum there was a big campaign to get Spotify onto Naim streamers, deal breaker at dawn etc. Once it was there it “sounded crap”, and why can’t we have lossless streaming. Them Tidal came, but it’s too expensive, albums I want aren’t on it, could we not have Qobuz…>

There’s a moral there somewhere.

SJB

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-1 for vertical scrolling (Used to Sooloos)

-1000 for suppressing negative votes

Adding features costs development time upfront and testing time, now and ongoing.

The ability to change the fundamental movement of the main UI would mean all testing now has to be done using both options, so whatever the tested combinations of screen resolution, screen scaling, font sizes, system language, graphics chipset, driver version, windows version, fullscreen/windowed, etc… - you’ve just doubled this.

Since it will cost resource now, and add to on-going support - it would be nice if there was a voting feature where the user base could vote for/against proposed features with a rough idea of the impact in time/resources it will cost to achieve.

For every release, no matter how minor the change, you also risk taking up support resources dealing with ‘the sound quality is worse’ even though it’s still shoving out the same bits.

Matt.

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Setting up a voting system will take time also. I think it’s clear from reading this thread that a large number of users would like the option. It’s one of the most commented on threads. Changing the scrolling direction wouldn’t constitute a fundamental change in my opinion - but those considerations are best left to the devs, who would take that into account.

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Great, Roon’s massive 18yo demographic will be as happy as Larry.

The whole point is that scrolling is inconsistent. There’s a spillover of information on the Overview page, and that scrolls vertically.

Then within subsections, scrolling reverts to horizontal. That is not good Ux.

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Voting is built in to Discourse, unless the admins have specifically disabled it.

Ok - let’s vote on who wants to have a voting system.

This thread has become like the 4chan of the Roon forums. I vote to lock it up.

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