I’m trying to figure out where the “Performed By” notation on a track comes from.
I added an album today that has different guest performers on different tracks (some of the tracks are performed by the primary artist (album artist?). But none of the guest performers show on the tracks
I couldn’t find a “Performer” tag in mp3Tag. Is the tag called something else?
There’s an “Album Artist” tag, and an “Artist” tag. Neither shows up on the tracks as “Performed by” in Roon.
Looking in mp3Tag (and dbpoweramp) at a track that displays someone in “Performed by” in Roon, I don’t see any tag associated with it, hence why I wondered if the information came from Roon and cannot be user edited.
Thank you for the link. Unfortunately, I found most it overwhelming, confusing, and not specifically addressing my question.
What I got from it seemed like I could add a PERFORMER tag as you suggested. I added a PERFORMER tag in mp3Tag as you suggest (I followed the same steps I used to successfully add a ROONTRACKTAG tag), but that did nothing in Roon. In mp3Tag and dbpoweramp I can see the added tag, but it doesn’t show up anywhere in Roon (yes, I rescanned).
I’m obviously missing or not understanding something. I really need to know specifically, step by step, how to add the correct tag (what tag???).
It’s odd to me that when I look at the tags on a track that Roon does show “Performed by”, there’s no correlation/indication of a tag that’s providing that information to Roon.
Thanks. Unfortunately, I don’t understand the response in terms of how exactly to implement it in mp3Tag or dBpoweramp. It seems to assume one is familiar with the details of tag editing, which I am not. Even Googling the subject I get no hits on exactly how to do this.
Perhaps someday someone will take pity on me and provide some hand holding.
Perhaps where I’m not doing it right is where I’m adding the PERSONNEL tag in mp3Tag?
When I added the ROONTRACKTAG, this is what I put in the Name, Value, and Field fields (it’s the same format in other tags, so I just followed those examples). Set up this way the ROONTRACKTAG works fine.
If I do the same for PERSONNEL;
Name = PERSONNEL
Value = %personnel%
Field = %personnel%
You can see in the above pic a column is created named PERSONNEL, with fillable fields for each track. As you can see I filled in “Test” for the first track. Nothing from this tag appears in Roon. I tried putting in “Test - Featured Artist”, and still nothing appears
When adding a tag in mp3Tag, can anyone tell me what to put in the Name, Value, and Field fields so Roon will put the artist performing the track under the appropriate track?
I enable the tag panel in “View”. It means I can make the Personnel tag multi-line which is useful when you want to add a lot of performers. When I added the Personnel tag there was no “Value” field, just “Default value”. I didn’t change anything and left it at ‘keep’. This works for me and tagging “Artist Name - Featured Artist” at the track level gets me the performer credit under the track title.
I thought I was making progress when I copied your Import Settings. When I did that, “Performed by” did appear under the track I was testing. But when I tried to remove “Test” by “Performed by”, it would not go away, nor could I edit it in mp3Tag. I still could not figure out what tag in mp3Tag Roon was reading to get the Performed by information.
Out of frustration, in mp3Tag and dbpoweramp I deleted any reference to a Personnel tag. When I did that, the “Performed by Test” info went away in Roon. I tried adding in the Personnel tag again in mp3Tag, but I’m back to square one where Roon will not display Performed by under the track when I enter the data in mp3Tag under Personnel despite my new Library import settings.
I believe the problem is I don’t know the exact steps to properly add the appropriate tag (is the correct tag PERSONNEL?) in mp3Tag. It’s odd that I had no trouble adding the ROONTRACKTAG in mp3Tag, but cannot seem to correctly add the PERSONNEL tag using the same steps.
The screenshot you posted I believe just shows how to make an existing tag field visible in the Tag Panel on the left of the screen. I don’t believe it actually adds the new tag to mp3Tag.
Would you do me a big favor and post the following…
Go to the top and click on View, then Customize Columns. Do you see PERSONNEL in the list? If so, click on it; what does it say beside Name, Value, and Field?
Also, Click on View again, then Extended Tags. Do you see PERSONNEL in the metadata list? If so, what does it say beside it?
I didn’t actually notice there was a column/spreadsheet view in mp3tag until you have pointed it out. I never use it and always use the same procedure to create new tags. I go to Tools->Options->Tag Panel->Add Field. I have added many fields this way, not just ‘Personnel’. All visible in roon.
When I go to the column view, there is no Personnel field available from the pick-list, so I have to create a new column:
We are obviously using mp3tag/roon in a different way. It works for me but not for you.
But when I tried to remove “Test” by “Performed by”, it would not go away, nor could I edit it in mp3Tag.
I do not experience this. I do not have to rescan in roon, for example, when making edits in mp3tag. Roon realises there has been a change which is automatically propagated. If you have copied what I did and it doesn’t work I am out of ideas I am afraid. I cannot think of any additional steps I have made that may account for it.
Thank you so much for taking the time and trouble to post that.
Seeing how the details are filled out I can see what I was doing differently (and not working). Using your example/procedure I’ll give it a try.
That said, I think I got it figured out without having to add a new tag. OMG, I”m embarrassed to say the answer was simple. The clue to the solution was in your post about Roon’s Tag Import settings.
Before when I listed a person under ARTIST (someone different than ALBUM ARTIST), it didn’t work. But that was before you posted about checking my Roon Tag Import settings. Up until now it didn’t cross my mind to try again after changing my Tag Import settings as you suggested . I was so focused on trying to add a new tag that I thought was needed. So, with my Tag Import settings changed, I tried again listing the person performing the track under ARTIST, and it worked!! All that aggravation and the answer was a simple setting change!
I’m a little miffed that someone from Roon didn’t chime in and answer my original question (from what tag does Roon get ‘Performed by’ information).
I GREATLY appreciate you forum members who posted here and stuck with me trying to help me! Thank you!!!
I still want to test your method of adding a new tag in mp3Tag. At least after all of this maybe I can learn something that may come n handy n the future.
Good luck. But you will find this does not work consistently. There have been many posts about it. Hence the “Featured Artist” trick. It also seems to work with “Soloist” or other roles like “Piano” or “Violin”. But often I find I have to add an additional “Primary Artist” tag as well. That just has the effect though of getting duplicates into the Credits pane. But I rarely use that view, so I don’t mind. I don’t believe there has been a definitive answer on this from roon, not that I have seen anyway. There seems to be a lot of interaction effects between various import settings and over-lapping and related tags.
In general, unless you’ve told Roon otherwise via settings it’ll use its own metdata and ignore file-based metadata. The exception to this is when an album is Unidentified - Roon will then use the file based metadata. Outside of that you need to tell Roon to prefer one or the other or use both (e.g. genres, composers). Where you use both Roon is generally smart enough to eliminate duplicate metadata.