Is it worth the while to upgrade from a perfectly, but sometimes slow reacting Nucleus Plus, to a new Nucleus Titan…? Your thoughts please…?
You’ll need to share some information about your library and setup. For example, number of albums / tracks, storage locations, DSP uses, number of zones, and how everything is networked / connected.
Yes, you’re right…
Whole building is CAT6 Ethernet. Music path is either from Qobuz or Tidal over non overbooked 100Mbps fiber internet through Sonicwall or from local NAS in same IP network. Everything on one switch. No filters or tricks, one ROSE RS130. Avarage playlist size is 500 tracks containing Qobuz and/or Tidal stuff.
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wand-swt-01#sh inventory
NAME: “1”, DESCR: “WS-C3750X-48P”
PID: WS-C3750X-48P-S , VID: V02 , SN: FDO1508Z06W
NAME: “Switch 1 - Power Supply 1”, DESCR: “FRU Power Supply”
PID: C3KX-PWR-715WAC , VID: V02 , SN: LIT17231H08
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How many tracks in your library (including local files and Qobuz/Tidal tracks). This is a critical variable.
EDIT, looks like 55,714 local files. But how many Qobuz/Tidal tracks in library?
With focus on Qobuz and Tidal:
My Albums: 2235 of 6752
My Artists: 1 of 4035
My Tracks: 4681 of 60356
My Classical Composers: 69 of 13880
Is this what you mean…?
AND ALSO: I was playing a 2500 plus queue consisting of 5 Qobuz playlists.
mostly. But more simply, if you go to Roon home screen, how many TOTAL tracks show up in your library.
I have been running several Mac’s as Roon Server with 8 gb of RAM. They ran just fine with my library. My latest server is a Linux powered Lenovo laptop with 16 gb of RAM and an 8th gen i7 quad core CPU. It runs much snappier.
My libraries total size.
Number of local tracks. The other 19.5k tracks are a mix of Qobuz and Tidal.
To be honest, in my opinion. A Nucleus Titan is just a totally overpriced piece of equipment.
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Personally don’t think the Titan is worthwhile under any scenario. For 4k it should be amazing and offer top specs, but it’s overpriced and average specs likely so they can keep it cool. It’s already been shown to not manage a DSP process that lesser and cheaper machines can handle.
It has a nice coat if you like that sort of thing, personally think it’s ugly but it’s a pc so nothing is really going to change that. By buying one you’re helping fund RoonOs development which for the community should be good if they update Rock to work on newer hardware. But I feel that bird has flown the nest, but hope I am wrong.
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My Lenovo has been running for 2 weeks straight now after installation. RAM usage has remained the same and apart from some minor updates to Linux itself it has been running without supervision.
For me personally a NUC with Rock on it would be unnecessary. 
Linux has all the tools onboard to run a Roon Server succesfully. And minus the MacOS or Windows bloat.
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Like you I can install Roon on other hardware, it’s easy… However I will stick to the Roon supplied hardware for the simple reason I don’t have to explain all sorts of stuff regarding non Roon compliant hardware and software.
So the only question for the ROON developers is: Will my sometimes slow ROON experience on my NUCLEUS PLUS improve on a NUCLEUS TITAN.
I have no question about whether it will run on Mac’s, PC’s, PLC’s, Tesla’s and what not…
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given the relatively small size* of your library, it is unlikely the Nucleus Titan will improve things. But it is odd that you don’t have relatively snappy performance with your Nucleus Plus. I have about 130,000 mostly FLAC local files and run them on a probably 7 year old NUC with 16GB RAM, running ROCK. It is fairly snappy when browsing, filtering, etc. I don’t use it for any DSP.
How much RAM do you have in Nucleus Plus? Maybe more would improve performance?
*edit: it is when number of tracks gets above 100,000 that some report more difficulty. But I’ve not seen that (yet).
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Thank you @garym…! I don’t know how much RAM I have in my Nucleus Plus. Further more, one is not supposed to know how much RAM is in there. I also read an article from Roon that it will not make any difference how much RAM you stick into it, since they run the software in some sort virtual machine with a fixed amount of RAM. That makes sense to me, given the fact the software runs on practically everything.
Probably thinking along similar lines. The Nucleus should handle the library fine, and extra memory could help.
If it’s already got plenty, then a Support ticket is needed so Roon can pull the logs.
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The thing is: After a restart it runs fine and snappy is you call it… But after a while it starts to deteriorate until is takes a minute to even get the remote running…
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Definately worthwhile opening a support ticket. Follow this link to provide the details of your case to Technical Support: Technical Support Request
Respond to the prompts there to ensure that you’ve performed basic troubleshooting and to ensure Technical Support has the full details necessary to expedite Technical Support’s investigation into the case. Your responses will auto-generate a Community thread in the appropriate section.
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something is not right. Follow @mjw instructions re: support. Good luck.
Thank you much
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Hmm that has happened here as well with two of my Mac’s running Roon. In my case it was RAM running full. After a fresh start Roon kept eating more and more RAM. After awhile Roon became slow and unresponsive. Knocking on wood, but so far no issues with my latest server.
Maybe I’m missing something, but if your machine can run latest versions of Linux, MacOS or Windows and have decent performance, you have Roon-compliant hardware and software.
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