Do people do this? Maybe, over a couple of days when you buy a few releases or box set. But some indeterminate time in the future?
I have a significant number of downloads that come with vinyl releases. Typically, these use vouchers that expire once used. So, once downloaded, the responsibility to keep a safe copy is mine. I guess I thought it was the same for all digital content.
So, the moral of the story is, when buying digital content, download it straight away, keep it safe, and enjoy the music.
Without native Linux support, they aren’t the best option for Linux / NAS users. My preferred backup tool is Borg / Pika / Borgmatic plus a Hetzner Storage Box.
I just use Google drive, £80 a year for 2 tb to back my music up using WD Goodsync (free version) from my nas.
And I can play music from Google drive via several different apps, if I need to.
No, I think it’s terrible that Qobuz will no longer maintain the albums that customers have purchased. I downloaded all of my purchases and backed them up, but if I were to lose my music on all the drives I have them on, I would be out of luck, hence the reason I said it was terrible. I have many albums I bought from Apple and to my knowledge, they are still available for downloads.
That would be similar to having a bunch of LP’s and CD’s at your house and the house burns down. Is anyone going to replace those for you? Qobuz can’t maintain music that the licensing agreement has expired, etc. They can’t stream it either unless streaming has some different licensing agreements.
Another analogy is my AT&T U-Verse TV drops certain shows and channels from time to time because the licensing agreements expire.
@Jim_F Is there any reason my business has become your business?
The burning house analogy is ridiculous and you don’t own your cable tv subscription. I own the albums I buy from any online music retailer, so your AT&T analogy is ridiculous as well.
For now I am backing up my Nucleus SSD to 2 different Synology NAS and an Aurender ACS-100 but these are all in-house solutions.
I have been wanting to implement some internet backup solution like BackBlaze but never really got to it since it’s US based and restoring either takes a lot of time or having drives sent to me.
The Germany based Hetzner you mention seems like a much better solution for me and from what I read it seems to be reliable.
But what are the options to backup to Hetzner?
Would a backup of the backed-up music folder I have on Synology with Hyper Backup to Hetzner work? Just asking since I’d like the backup application to run on Synology rather than my PC.
And is it better to use rsync or WebDav?
I would do this for my music and photos. Would love to do it for my movies as well but that’d be expensive since I have over 20TB of movies.
I can’t speak for others, of course, but i often buy downloads when spare time is available.
That doesn’t always coordinate with the fact that i have suitable download platform at hand (i.e. i often make purchases when on the phone or tablet).
And, while i most of the time do download after the weekend or shortly after, stranger things have happened.. I do NOT blame Qobuz for this of course, but the historical pledge that was made, was that i would “always” (my words) have access to re-download.
And that is what has changed, the ability to re-download. In my small purchase library of around 300 albums nothing changed according to the notification though.
You are blaming Qobuz, but it is out of their control. It is the record label that has chosen to withdraw certain albums from the streaming and downloading marketplace, and Qobuz has no choice but to comply. In any case, if you’d purchased a CD and lost or damaged it (along with any ripped copies), you’d be out of luck as well for a free replacement.
First of all, it isn’t quite October 1 yet, and this hasn’t happened yet on Qobuz either. However, if a record label told Apple to stop making an album available for download, then Apple must comply as well. A moderator on the Qobuz Club forum commented that all streaming platforms are affected by the impacted albums.
I’m afraid that this isn’t true, not in the strictly legal sense. That’s why Qobuz can remove access. Although, as others have pointed out, it’s not actually what Qobuz wants to do, it’s what they’ve been forced to do.
For the record, I’m not angry or upset with Qobuz. My point is, it’s an unfortunate situation if for any given reason someone needed to re-download their music that they purchased, they may not have access to it. I have my Qobuz purchased downloads backed up on (3) different drives because I knew that was the reasonable and prudent thing to do, so I should be good.
I’m not sure what you mean when you say I don’t actually own the music I purchased from Qobuz. You may be right, but I thought we did own the downloaded purchases just as we own our physical CD’s?
Yeah, same as a physical CD, we own the right to play it.
But as I said before, just like with a physical CD, it’s our responsibility not to lose it.
Let’s say you buy a physical CD and you lose it, you won’t get a new one for free from the store.
You might not be able to even buy a new one as well, I have that with a Diana Krall SACD that I lent to someone and never got back. That SACD isn’t available anymore.
So strictly speaking, you are better of with purchased downloads, you can usually re-download them later if you lost them. Until the service doesn’t have it available anymore of course.
Remedy to all that is making backups by different means.
Digital media is a strange one when it comes to ownership. You have the right to access it, as long as it’s still available (e.g. you can’t access something if the company you purchased from has gone out of business). This right is not the same as property in the sense that you can’t pass it on to somebody else and, upon your death, it doesn’t become part of your estate.
If your purchase is DRM free (like Qobuz purchases) then you can also download it to a physical storage device. Now things become really interesting/complicated. You then own a copy of the purchase, in the sense that you own the storage device. This is now property, but in a way that is not quite the same (legally) as owning a CD. The exact legal status depends upon the country that you live.
Of course the practical reality is that, at this stage, it belongs to you in the same way that a CD belongs to you. I don’t think that the local storage device international police force will be coming to check on any of us
It may be that you haven’t purchased downloads that are going away and they are only sending notices to people in that situation. In my case, I’ve purchased lots of downloads from them, but the email I received specifically mentioned only a single album that would no longer be available.
