Yes, I meant Server Message Block, not Small/Medium Business. I thought that ROCK was built on a thinned version of Linux – so more general Internet networking tools could be added. Now whether that’s a good idea is another matter. In my case I’m trying to access a large library (approximately 8 TB) from two locations and while I have a NAS in a server closet at one location, in the other I’m relying on a (loudish) external USB drive.
I realize something like Jottacloud might work – but I’d really like to eliminate the need to keep two large libraries in synch. In a perfect world I’d just have a single library that could be accessed from multiple locations.
I could agree, but to achieve that you would need to set up some sort of a VPN.
So a sync folder is the easiest and cheapest way today.
We can hope for Roon in the future to support streaming direct from a private cloud account.
I think this has been discussed in another tread. Not sure if it’s on the roadmap.
Maybe there are some unknown technical challenges as well ?
If people can get rid of their local storage, saving a bit space and electricity, and achieve better accessibility, it may give Roon some benefits compared with other players.
It could even be a paid one time add on. Or that Roon collaborate with a cloud service that is a cheap as Jottacloud.
There is maybe a limit how many cloud services you could support, or maybe there is a lack of cloud service that would support Roon.
In a near future I see a possibility to move the whole Roon out in the cloud.
No need for ROCK, Nucleus, SonicTransporter etc.
Only very good endpoints. (Like an old iPhone )
To have Roon running in a huge server farm, is not cheap, so it may cost you more.
I think it’s easy to move Roon out in the cloud, and you would probably have less support issues as well. But I’m not so sure the majority of users is ready for it.
I’ve thought about testing a personal cloud solution running ROCK on a VPS but the thing holding me back is cost. My collection is only 600CDs (400GB) and I could probably get away using 1 core with 2GB which runs $10/month on Linode that only inlcudes 30GB of storage. Adding 400GB of block storage would cost about $40/month. You would also want that backed up which adds more costs.
I haven’t played with ROCK, but I would want it to support VPN and Resilio Sync packages which don’t get wiped when the ROCK udpates. Otherwise, you would need another VPS to run a VPN server granting access to ROCK.
I don’t forsee Roon offering a cloud solution anytime soon until costs come way down.
I have one question to that, as I am also working on an online solution to store and reach my collection from everywhere.
Is there any possibility to install Roon core on a dedicated webserver (Apache, MySQL) and run it as a regular web application like any other website controlled over the browser?
I have “unlimited” web space, which for sure is not unlimited but should be enough to keep at least my favorite albums.
This would be incredible leap forward in access…
Maybe there are some hands-on professionals who tried something similar?
As Roon uses OpenGL instead of web technologies I think, this is not possible. Maybe by using remote control via VNC, but which provider does allow this?
Just imagine, you can use a dedicated apache server as your core… You could reach it via any Roon client software either on mobile or with windows or Mac or standard www.adress like a web page with password access… This would be perfect and would extend the reachability of anyone’s collection to anywhere in the world…
Now I am forced to live with a solution from other software on my Webserver, which is OK, but far away from Roons qualities…
If Roon would supply a solution for this… To be honest… I would pay for…
I am a new Roon user (as of this morning) but so far very impressed with the service. Question on MSFT OneDrive: I use OneDrive to store all of my music files, and currently do not have them synchronized to reside both locally on my Win 10 laptop and on the OneDrive cloud (ie, they reside only on the OneDrive cloud). I thought I would have to synchronize all of my music files to a local drive (either on my laptop on on a NAS) but Roon has been able to access and play all of my music via its OneDrive cloud-only location. Are there any issues with continuing to use OneDrive as my only source for music files? I can’t tell if there is any quality degradation yet, and latency doesn’t seem to be an issue either. Am I missing anything or is OneDrive a viable storage point for my music files? Using OneDrive is easier than installing and managing my own NAS, and given that I am already paying for the MSFT 365 subscription it is also cost-effective. Thanks for any insight you can offer here.
It’s not clear to me how you have setup Roon to access your OneDrive. Can you post a screenshot of your Roon’s Settings/Storage screen, and say what device you are running the Roon Core on? Thanks.
No, only if you have a monthly bandwidth cap to worry about and of course if your network/internet is down so is your music.
I presume you’ve mounted OneDrive using a tool to present it as a drive letter to Windows? Or does Roon see the OneDrive native folder presented to Windows?
I’ve attached a screen shot of my Roon Storage settings and also my Win 10 file manager with some representative music files. My music files are (or maybe, were) all on OneDrive only but I think when Roon accessed the files to read them, it made them available locally on my hard drive. This hasn’t created any issues for me and Roon is working fine so I’m happy with the current setup, although I think my experience shows that cloud-only storage is not an option. As I get more experience with Roon and grow my music library (currently at about 70 GB) I will likely move to a NAS environment.
My Roon Core and music files are running on a Dell XPS (i7 processor), and primary playback is through an Audio Engine B1 bluetooth receiver/DAC, which is a relatively simple implementation for me to start with and which I expect to improve on over time.
Yes, as I thought, you’re using the local sync point on your Windows 10 PC, and when Roon accesses a file, a local copy is created from the cloud…
I’m curious as to why you say this:
…and why you will likely move to a NAS environment?
True, your Microsoft 365 subscription gives you only 1TB storage - but in these days of mixed streaming and local libraries, is this not enough? I confess that I have a family subscription to Microsoft 365, and I’m using my husband’s 1TB storage as backup of my local music files. Don’t tell him…
My original goal was to keep my music library off of my laptop’s HDD, mainly to save space on that drive. Given that I have Microsoft 365 the bundled 1TB of storage that plan provides seemed like an easy solution to host Roon files, and I set the OneDrive option to keep files only on OneDrive in the MSFT cloud to keep music off of the HDD. But I now realize that OneDrive will make a file resident locally on the laptop HDD when that file is accessed; given that Roon opened all the files in my music library when I imported them to Roon, those files are now resident to my laptop.
I will still use OneDrive as an easy way to back up my music library, and at least for the interim can live with my music library and the Roon Core residing on my laptop as I learn how to use Roon effectively (so far I like Roon a lot - I have gone through multiple music apps in the past including MusicMatch, iTunes, and JRiver). A NAS may be in my future, and we may also see Roon evolve to providing cloud hosting/storage for both the Core and music storage in the future…but that is total speculation on my part).
In short, I think OneDrive will continue to have a place in my music architecture for backup but right now the simple laptop-centric implementation I am using works.
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