Now, you could have just come out and said this 2000 posts back, couldn’t you… 
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Fair point. Mea culpa. 
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Now we truly are in The Matrix, Neo! Have you read Baudrillard?
If I had followed yout ‘faulty logic’ back in 1983, I would have believed the masses and the ■■■■■■■■ that Sony & Philips were peddling at the time, about CD being ‘Perfect Sound Forever’. Like many people at that time, I would have ditched my vinyl collection, and invested my money in (now worthless) shiny beer mats.
Thank God I didn’t do that. At the time, in contrast to the masses, I believed that vinyl sounded better than CD. And now I’m sat-on a beautiful, cherished vinyl collection that still sounds sublime 
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You do know, though, that there are standards defining pretty precisely as to “how much power” is used?
It’s a standardized interface technology, after all!
I’m not sure you’re deep enough into the matter to give us such sweeping explanations.
The same goes for circuit board layout, or do you have expertise with that?
I hate to get into these partisan threads, but just couldn’t let that stand uncommented.
Yup. We’re not talking about PoE here, where power sourcing equipment and the switch interface negotiate the required power, it’s just normal data transmission with no additional overhead. In the latter case, enough power is used to push the signal to a maximum recommended distance as per the standards. In practice, with well engineered cables, these standards distances can be exceed by 20% or so as attenuation expectation is not as high as designed for. So we’re using the same amount of energy in transmitting no matter the length of the cable. I’m not using 100-120m runs in my house and I’m not sure many others would.
I was involved in designing, commissioning and implementing a limited number of building management system control boards back in the 90s, mainly surrounding fire alarm panels but also some environmental control systems too.
I haven’t been in hands-on tech for many years now and have forgotten more of standards and frameworks including BICSI, IEEE, ASHRAE, Uptime etc etc than I care to think about.
I’ll bite you’d have to be pretty gullible to believe the marketing slogan. Perfect isn’t a measure that’s likely to be achieved ever and forever is a really long time. While CDs will rot quicker than vinyl, especially in sunlight, you can make a perfect copy reasonably trivially. Vinyl degrades with playing, so it isn’t forever.
I was also a vinyl hold out for a long time and still have it. I’m not under the illusion that it’s technically better than digital now, though. Which sound you prefer is another matter, but digital has a significant edge from a technical perspective. It’s also more portable, reliable, tolerant of environmental conditions and easier to store long term.
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I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said 
I just feel sorry for all those people my age (50+) who ‘believed the hype’ when it came to CD, and are now busy replacing their vinyl collections 
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Now I think about it I do still have an emotional attachment to my vinyl that my CDs and downloads can’t elicit. I miss the artwork, extras and the record shops. In many cases, I remember where I was and who I was with when I bought them.
I can also see myself coming down firmly on the subjective preference side where high frame rate digital video is concerned. I know that it’s technically superior but watching it makes me feel ill and I prefer the grainy 24fps experience.
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Once again:
… the transceiver chips you’ll see in your home Ethernet environment are nowadays usually run at about a meager 2.5V and 10mA, so that’ll amount to about 25mW into a differential impedance matched transmission line, hardly causing a harsh audio environment.
I think we can all relax and not worry about that, but what we should worry about is people making a mountain out of a molehill in order to sustain a certain narrative!
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Completely agree regarding the snake oil narrative. Nail/head interface.
If that Ethernet cable interface on “badly designed” crammed PC boards or some shield ground current loops do worry anyone, better shut off all your wireless stuff and mobile phones, replace your wallpapers with heavily grounded thick Aluminium foil, also below your audiophile rug and ceiling diffusers and on doors and windows first…
… and don’t forget, to not prepare your popcorn - to properly savor reading this thread - in the microwave while listening to your big rig!
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the Bragg effect!
Pfft……!
grin
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Hey Gang!
Just a quick reminder to please be respectful in your posts and communications with one another. We’re just talking about cables, we can allow folks to have their opinions whether we choose to embrace them or not.
Right on, peace and Roon love, etc 
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Guys, just switch to WiFi and get rid of all those pesky Ethernet cable problems. You read it here first.
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And TOSLINK your WiFi connected streamer into your DAC. 
But then you’ll have optical noise creeping into your analog audio. You need directional audiophile-grade optical cables, because optical cables definitely affect SQ.
(not)
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Yeah - of course. Thought this was going without saying. Applying the secret sauce optical improvement fluid to all contact areas is mandatory too.
As dead horses go, this thread is up there with the best of them.
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Spare the rod and spoil the dead horse, flog on…
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