Does anyone sub to Spotify?

The drain seems to come from the constant connection to my 4g or 5g depending on my location while playing music.

My iPhone 14’s battery drains just as fast with ARC or the Qobuz or Deezer app. I’ve quit with Tidal, but its app battery drain was on par with ARC as well. I’ve noticed though while listening to an Internet radio station it drains even faster.

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YT Music is fine for the car and if you use YouTube you’ll get that ad free.
I sub mainly for YouTube but it’s there for an emergency.

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Same here. I’m spending a lot of my free time on YouTube. So having no, pardon my English, bloody adds with YouTube Premium is a godsend. YouTube Music is just a bonus for me.

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I’m using Tidal with Roon at home, but I have Spotify for the family and the wide support.
We have a Spotify Family subscription and wife and kids each use their own profile.

In the car (BMW iX3) there is an integrated Spotify app in the car media setup. Just log in and use all options in the car: heads up display, buttons on the steering wheel, etc ,etc, …
So convenient …

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I’d rather avoid Amazon and Apple as brands.
If memory serves me, it was Amazon that first provided Hi Res streaming at a substantially lower price than everyone else, more so for prime members. £7.99 in the UK I think.
I can’t see how that has helped the music industry, others had to follow suit and it’s all too cheap.
I digress tho sorry…

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I’m having a lot of issues on my Pixel 8.
Roon ARC will just stop playing, opening up the app again continues the music.
Also if I don’t force close the app my battery will keep draining.
I don’t have these problems with the Tidal app so I’m using that instead, although it saddens me that I cannot listen to my local music reliably on the go.

Well… This is my current phone homescreen – that may give it away a little.

My Roon and ARC are running perfectly fine. That said – my Spotify does too. And then some…

This is pretty much my setup. I tried all of them over the last month when coming back to Roon. Ended up with Tidal + Roon, and Spotify for car, running, etc. Dropped Apple Music, although a great experience and excellent app, too much overlap. I found Qobuz CarPlay incredibly frustrating, plus it didn’t have auto-download / caching (to be fair neither does Tidal).

I use Tidal much better than spotify

“When I travel I tend to use Roon on my laptop in the hotel.” That is exactly what I want to do, but have not been able to. I can open Roon, see all my music, and play it too- only not on my laptop. I can’t see it as an endpoint. I can make music play on devices back home, but that’s it. Do you have any idea what I am doing wrong? Thanks.

Have you selected the correct audio output zone for your laptop? And enabled it, if you look in settings: audio it will show you available zones.

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That’s pretty much my situation. I have Roon with both my home music library and Qobuz, that I use pretty much exclusively at home. When I am in my car or a hotel room, I use Spotify. The main downside of this would be having to pay for that extra service, but I have it for my family anyway. We have the family plan and my wife and kids love their Spotify. I’m just as happy to keep them away from my Roon account, so I have it available. I don’t know that I’d be spending the money to have it just for myself, but I can see that with it already available I find I tend to use it as described.

When I am at home and start Roon on my laptop, I very briefly see a message at the bottom of my screen saying “Select Zone” but it quickly goes away and my laptop is shown as the device for playback (of course I can change it to any other endpoint on my system). Music plays fine. When I am at a hotel, I have to connect to my home via VPN (or Zerotier). When I do this and start Roon, everything looks good and I can see all my home endpoints, but the laptop itself is not one of them, even though it has been enabled.

Roon does not support VPN except with Roon ARC. If you want to use VPN with Roon, you need to search in the Tinkering category of this forum for possible help.

Otherwise, to use Roon on your laptop away from home, you need to install Roon Server and Roon (client) on the laptop. Connect your laptop to the internet using a WIFI signal or cellular and authorize the Roon server that is loaded on your laptop. You will unauthorize your “at home” Roon server as part of this process.

@Jim_F Yes, what you said is what I also understood, but when @AceRimmer wrote “When I travel I tend to use Roon on my laptop in the hotel” I was hopeful he had found a way to make it work. Is he just using his laptop as the Roon server then?

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Either that or he is using a non-supported VPN solution.

Hehe… PlexAmp, Audirvana and Sonos are on the second screen. A man needs to keep himself educated.

Then again, it’s less about what one has than what one uses…

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Sub runs until the end of this year or so, but is set to not renew. I’m not that interested in loopholes.

I reactive Audirvana every now and then for a month to check out what’s new, but so far it never convinced me not to cancel. I use HQ Player sparingly, but have made the upgrades so far (3-4-5).

But yes, I use Spotify more often than I’d care to admit (listening to a quite excellent Release Radar this friday evening), with Roon reserved for late night solo listening.

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I never quit using Spotify in the car, Arc in my opinion has worse user experience and Roon has overall very low reliability

I use Tidal and Qobuz for streaming through Roon. However, Tidal is my go-to for mobile. Tidal works on iPhone, iPad, and is in-built to the Tesla dashboard. It also works natively in the Android ecosystem. Tidal works via CarPlay in my wife’s VW.

My in-home audio system supports Tidal Connect, during times that Roon has connectivity issues for Tidal. In that case, the Tidal app on any of our i-devices serve as “tuners” for the native Tidal implementation in the integrated home audio system. This is a common setup for devices that are “Roon Ready” to support also Tidal Connect.

Tidal allowed me to extract my audio collection from Apple and gain higher playback quality and a better streaming payback deal for artists. For me, it’s a separation-of-concerns thing. Leave OS to Apple; acquire music and streaming content from others.