How is the Nucleus better than using a good Computer as the core?

Rock is a blackbox on top of open source :slight_smile:

This is simply incorrect.

All one has to do it put an analyzer on the output of a DAC and look at the output when using various input devices putting out the exact same digital data to see this isn’t true. Some DACs are better than others at dealing with noise and jitter than others, but to some degree all are affected.

What you’re saying doesn’t even contradict what Greg was saying. Why the DAC produces signal distortion is another matter. It’s broken in one way or another. The more complicated a DAC is, the more ways in which it can be broken.

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@Torben_Rick -it would be great if they could offer RPi case too :slight_smile: I hate all the sockets arround 99% RPi boxes

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Not true. The implication of what he said is clear here:

This is likely a topic that has been covered elsewhere.
A Roon Nucleus is reasonably costly. For a variety of physical reasons of practicality I cannot easily have an ethernet connected nucleus in proximity to my main system.

Has anyone used a PC as a core and switched to a Nucleus and noted a drastic difference?

i am currently using a Beelink Mini PC as my core connected to my Yamaha RXA 3080 receiver via an external MusicStreamer Pro DAC connected to my
receiver with XLR cables.

Sounds wonderful.

A Roon Nucleus would be a significant upgrade requiring hiring someone to do some wiring.

I am using wifi without problems.

I have RBH speakers also. I would describe myself as an enthusiast. Listen to my collection of well several thousand recordings (all in FLAC with a few in DSF) on a NAS and Qobuz subscription.

Very happy with what I have, but always tweaking. My system is more elaborate, but just wanted to give you the idea of type and range of equipment I use.

If I can get better sound or functionality, I would get a Roon Nucleus. Currently all my Roon compatible devices in my home, I have four others, work seamlessly with wifi.

Any recommendations or anyone with prior experience?

No technical problems, just interested in whether I can get sound quality benefit.

Thanks

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There is no sound quality benefit in switching the OS the core runs on or the hardware. I assume you don’t plan to change your current settings.

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I suspect its convenience rather than any inherent quality difference

i ran my Roon Core on a “Tower desktop” for many years without a hitch (i7 - 7700, 16 gb RAM , 256 SSD OS ETC plus 2 x 3 Tb HDD and 2 X 4Tb SSD) . This covers all video too hence the drives

I switched to a NUC/ROCK with a 4tb SSD 9 months ago for the sheer size and “appliance” convenience. I was planning an re-positioning thing that never happened.

The real difference is one sounds like a tractor and must be out of ear shot , the other is virtually silent and can be incorporated as a "hi fi component’ in your listening room . The Nucleus more so that the NUC as its is in fanless case.

Since doing this I can’t Recall even touching the NUC

I you really care it’s prettier, a Tower PC is hardly “sexy”

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The computer that runs the Roon Core doesn’t dictate sound quality. The endpoints do. It doesn’t matter if the Core is running on a Nucleus or any other computer.

If your current system works then upgrading to a Nucleus would be an expensive endeavor that won’t be changing a thing.

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I hmm about this for some time - but as others have said its not what didcates the quality so much as the endpoints and with the NUC11 Beast Canyon i9 currently on euyer at £644 it was no brainer to replace my old PC (8 years old) and even that old PC ran perfectly with SSD. The Nucleus is a pretty box and a nice peice of engineering and makes a nice center peice if you have a ‘hifi central’ but I just have the Nuc in with all my NAS drives and its also driving a Plex server and a Zappiti server (the Plex is for remote use by three of my friends as well) and its killing it

Yeah like 50 times, the most recent just in the last weeks

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Again………??

im sorry for my Ignoance

Any electrical circuit is capable of distorsion

All electronics distort in some way. The idea that there is a perfect sound is a myth. From the moment the studio sets its levels electrical interference is present. Too much marketing and people believing in the “perfect sound” is all perception and individual.

(deleted, my life is too short)

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I greatly appreciate the replies. I thought I was missing something. Relatively new to Roon, prevously used Plex server for listening off NAS and Qobuz app or Bubble uPnP app for Qobuz and NAS listening.

Apologize for more seasoned Roon Community members for bringing up an old topic.

Having everything in one place with the ability to control multiple endpoints with Roon is incredible.

Loving my setup, I needed to make sure I wasn’t sacrificing SQ for convenience.

Couldn’t understand how the SQ at the endpoint could be degraded using wifi.

I guess the stability of the connection is the main benefit from the Nucleus.

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I had a tower setup when I started and had to use Wi-Fi. Worked fine most of the time but had the occasional glitch and usually when I was showing someone how well it works. I switched to a NUC/ROCK server then had Ethernet installed in most room in my house. I’d have to say Ethernet provided the biggest difference, eliminating the glitches. No difference in the sound quality.

From my own experience make sure the core at least is connected through Ethernet. It makes for a far more stable connection.

I’ve had quite a few dropouts when connected to WiFi. Even though the meter told me a had full strength signal. After connecting to Ethernet, the dropouts disappeared here.

Yes, the forum’s search tool is you friend.

I’ve merged your topic into this recent topic … have a read … the are conflicting views of course but you should be able to draw you own conclusions on what’s best for you.