Thanks for the quick response, Jussi. I had already set multimode to 1 using the backup/restore method some time ago.
I also just did a test of setting the HQP rate limit to 2822400 (DSD 64) and playing a DSD 64 track and still no output and a reversion to pause mode almost immediately. If it helps my downstream gear consists of a Signature Rendu SE from Sonore feeding a Denafrips Terminator Plus - both of which are DSD-capable up to 512. Very strange.
Likely there is some error in HQPlayer log which would explain why the playback fails.
Please check that you have latest NAA version (4.3.0) and latest HQPlayer version installed too. As I made some fixes regarding this behaviour somewhat recently.
I looked at the logs and could see nothing obvious, but you would be able to see things that I cannot - I can upload if it helps but they do make for quite long chunks of text so I’m reluctant to just dump them here.
I also noted that my Sonore Rendu has NAA version 4.2.5. I did the software update but nothing was changed and it remains at 4.2.5. I will drop a not to Andrew to ask if he can include 4.3.0 and push out an update.
I have Hqplayer → ultraRendu → Denafrips Pontus II, no Roon.
Intel i5 processor, NAA 4.2.5
Playing a DSD file with your settings applied to my setup works fine.
With Direct SDM checked, there is no load at all on my HQP machine and this makes sense because HQP is just passing the DSD file directly to the rendu and dac.
Direct SDM unchecked then uses the Integrator and SDM-SDM Conversion. The machine load is heavy at this point, and I use Direct SDM unchecked normally.
Manual:
When Direct SDM is enabled and DAC supports DSD input, DSD sources go through bit-perfect when output mode is SDM. When Direct SDM is disabled and output mode is SDM, Integrator and SDM-SDM Conversion parameters apply
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Different unrelated matter, PCM Gain should be -3 for Denafrips dacs as a starting point.
Hi Deano,
Many thanks for your post which gave me the idea to check playback via the HQP interface, avoiding use of Roon. Going this way I can play any DSD album in my collection with effectively zero loading on any of the CPU cores. So the issue lies somewhere with Roon itself. I will try to do some further investigation on this. I would prefer to be able to use Roon for everything, owing to the ease of use and the benefits of album/artist/track info and credits, etc. but its good to know that my system can actually play DSD tracks.
I think there must be a Roon setting regarding DSD and hqplayer. The Roon users might know. I do have Roon for few more months but turned it off a while ago.
You can send such to me over email, or send Google Drive share or similar through email. Time stamps when the issues happen can help locating the problem.
Problem lines are usually prefixed with ‘!’ or ‘#’ character.
That could be useful, as I think I fixed one similar issue on the latest release.
In Roon audio settings, open “Device setup” for the HQPlayer endpoint. Settings should be set to following:
MQA capabilities: No MQA support
Volume control: Device volume
Resync Delay: 0 ms
Enable MQA core decoder: Yes
Channel layout: 5.1
Send stereo/mono content as 5.1: No
Multichannel mixing: Channel mapping only
Also check that you don’t have any Roon DSP processing active.
There is a custom image built for the rendus with 4.3.0 NAA by Signalyst.
Grab a new blank microSD card, burn the image, remove the Sonore microSD card, insert new microSD, and power up the rendu. Restart HQP after naa boots up, then goto settings and select the new naa, save.
If you feel up to it.
https://www.signalyst.eu/bins/naa/images/naa-430-cubox-i-rendu.7z
I tried using the download you pointed to but when I put in the microSD card and turned on the Rendu the status light just stayed red and did not move to amber or green. So I have reverted to the original SD card.
Your recommended settings for the device settings in Roon seem to have helped a bit. I can play DSD64 and (usually) DSD128, but trying to play a DSD256 file stops within 1 or 2 seconds. In one case it even seemed to take down the Roon core and required the server to be restarted to get Roon back up and running.
I don’t support any status lights. When the image is booted up, the DAC behind should appear as NAA endpoint on the network.
As Jussi mentioned, no support for that led light, it stays red. Just boot up, you are good to go. No web interface. I’m using it on an ultraRendu, all good here.
I started up Roon for a test. DSD files play fine.
Roon → hqplayer → ultraRendu (custom Naa image or Sonore image) → Denafrips dac.
Unfortunately I could not get this to work for me. I flashed the img file you had linked to and swapped it in for the original Sonore SD card but despite rebooting the machine where HQP embedded sits, and restarting the Signature Rendu a few times, the HQP config page does not see the Rendu as a NAA endpoint. It can see my RPi (running NAA via DietPi) but refuses to register the Rendu.
This may be because the Rendu I have (Signature Rendu SE Optical) has a different internal systems structure (use of optical input?). So I will go back to asking Sonore to upgrade their OS to include the 4.3.0 NAA image.
Question: should the Rendu running the Signalyst image be visible on the local network? With the Sonore SD card inserted I can see the Rendu on my network but not when using the Signalyst img.
Oh, for some reason I thought you had a microRendu. The opticalRendu might not work with the custom image. Jussi would know I presume.
Hi there - I would like to boot from a memory stick on my i7 9700 PC, which image should I be using? Thanks
The x64avx2 should be ok
Good evening.
When I use the desktop version, I scanned my library, which is on an external 3.5 disk, which is connected via usb3.0 to my laptop.
But when I download the embedded version to this laptop, when I scan the library, the player does not see this disk…what do I need to do to scan the library correctly?
Does the embedded version work only with separate servers in the network, NAS, etc.?
If the hdd is NTFS then HQPe OS cannot read it
Hi, I am starting thisd new user thanks to my company subscription. Having said that, I wish to know why the HQP Client frequently stop playback and set the counter Limit to 1. What does that mean, is the playback stopped by HQPe, or is the reason the RME DAC or perhaps the Hypex nCore 400 monoblocks? Runiing in DSD Direct mode. Have tried all reference volume levels, same problem. Have tried lowering the PCM offset in config page, hence maybe this is involved as I am runing DoP?
Or … need your expertese, guys.
Have to mention, this was never an issue while using Roon playback. It started when using the HQPe playback controlled by the Client software.
Thanks in advance.
Can you share screenshots of all your HQP settings?
So we can see what could be the issue