The protocol is not even really built into the hardware. Another opinion with no facts.
Of course everyone is, but if you post wrong information don’t expect that it won’t be challenged.
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What task would that be?
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Troll post
LOL - yeah we have seen SO much of that.
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So why do I need both?
Both what?
Well, yes - but the fact that “Qobuz Connect” sounds better than Roon isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact, repeatedly mentioned. Neither good nor bad - just a fact
By the way, it’s the same for me too.
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Why? How? Because?
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A fact can be proved. So, show us the prove!
And a small hint, your own ears are not probative, because human ears are easy to fool. And messages in forums are also worth nothing, otherwise it would be a fact that the world is flat and Elvis is alive.
An analysis of a study or a double blind test would be good start.
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Well, yes - but the fact that “Qobuz Connect” sounds the same as Roon isn’t an opinion, it’s a fact, repeatedly mentioned. Neither good nor bad - just a fact
By the way, it’s the same for me too.
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Well, be reminded that in such cases “better” for some is “worse” for others and neither of it for even more others. So, I don’t see the point in your statement pretending to be an unbiased objective view because some say “better”.
That’s rather hear say than a fact based finding 
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Over at the thread Why am I struggling @acatala used his RME ADI DAC and the bit-perfect test files that RME provides for testing to confirm that Roon passes content to the DAC without alteration. Out of a ridiculous abundance of caution, he and I tested the RME test itself to confirm that even one bit of stream difference would be detected by the RME DAC.
So, in conclusion, Roon doesn’t have a sound (sans DSP) of any sort but just sends the content to the DAC. It’s harder to do this test with Qobuz Connect but, given these results, we can be assured that if Qobuz Connect has a different sound into the same DAC it must be altering the data stream in some way. I don’t like the thought of that, but also think it’s unlikely.
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Does Qobuz Connect perform decoding and processing at the endpoint? I assume so. Is it possible that people actually do NOT prefer pristine bit perfect transport?
The sound of a busier endpoint is pleasing to some?
I mean, I love vinyl and its by no means “accurate” in a clinical sense.
So maybe people are hearing a real difference. They just prefer a little noise with their music.
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have Qobuz connect no working on a Silent Angel M1T, which is also a Roon endpoint. dac is the built-in dac on a Quad VA-One+. sounds quite good.
my initial impression is it sounds a bit “softer” than Roon, but I have not done direct comparisons yet.
in any event, I’m enjoying it.
Made me laugh thinking of this thread
You claim that an
( ) audible
( ) measurable
( ) hypothetical
improvement in sound quality can be attained by:
( ) upsampling
( ) non-oversampling
( ) increasing word size
( ) vibration dampening
( ) bi-wiring
( ) replacing the external power supply
( ) using a different lossless format
( ) decompressing on the server
( ) removing bits of metal from skull
( ) using ethernet instead of wireless
( ) inverting phase
( ) reversing “polarity” of resistors
( ) ultra fast recovery rectifiers
( ) installing bigger connectors
( ) installing Black Gate caps
( ) installing ByBee filters
( ) installing hospital-grade AC jacks
( ) defragmenting the hard disk
( ) running older firmware
( ) using exotic materials in cabinet
( ) bronze heatsinks
( ) violin lacquer
( ) $500 power cords
( ) a universally applicable omnidirectional tweeter
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whisk(e)y makes a difference as well.
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First, Roon sounds great here on a low six figure stereo. But, on my system, Qobuz Connect sounds better than Qobuz/Roon. I think I know why.
My built in dCS DACs streamer program, Mosaic, replaces Roon as a Streamer program when tuning Qobuz connect directly. So the music is processed by less software. The same is true for the jPlay program. Again in my system… your results can certainly be different.
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It’s digital and this doesn’t matter. Your Qobuz streams are being processed by a thousand machines before they even reach you. Just like your bank account is the same regardless of the number of machines processing it.
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Yes, that’s usually true of my bank account.
It could also be that the streaming software in the dCS system sounds a bit better than the Roon software. Not a fair fight given the relative price differences. Roon is a wonderful value. I’m told the better Aurender streamers also have a bit better sound quality. But again, not really a fair comparison.
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Roon is known to be bit perfect and some of us users even tested that theory and tested the test of that theory in order to prove it. Therefore, Roon delivers exactly the bits in the original file to the DAC. There is no damage done to the digital content by Roon’s processing.
So, having proven that, you face the possibility that dCS is manipulating the audio content if Mosaic sounds different than Roon. Or, possibly, they are performing some kind of DSP processing that you are not aware of or as part of their design (and without making it defeatable). You should ask dCS whether they do DSP without informing you on one or the other implementations. I would consider that a deal breaker for the product if they did!
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