Yes, permanently a topic on the forum with AVRs
Well my own tests prove to me otherwise. This single core stuff for Roon isn’t true at all it’s a mixed bag.
Well Celerons aren’t single core CPUs. Anyways, I am quite confident that Roon Labs manages to choose a CPU that does what they need at the price they targeted.
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Maximise their profits more I would say. Which they are allowed to do of course. You can buy an n100 mini pc for a lot less and likely get the same performance and likely better support. This whole dealer mark up is a sham as reading most support stuff on hear most don’t do a damn thing other than send it back to Roon which you could do yourself.
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I would say trying to find an optimum point that gives them the profit they want or need at an attractive price point and performance. Let’s keep in mind that it costs a third of the original Nucleus while apparently delivering approx. the same performance as far as we know.
And giving us ROCK for those who prefer to build their own equivalent cheaper if they want and can. I fail to see the problem.
There is nothing to build you can buy the whole system ready to go for under £300 that’s my point. You can buy a much more powerful one for under £400 all ready to go. They all come with Windows as standard or if you want install a Linux distro without much hassle. The N1 is still overpriced for what it is given its claiming same spec as processor that’s 5-6 years old. Why buy stuff that will date quickly when you can get better for less that will have more longevity. Also the Mac Mini looks a lot more enticing for its price than this.
I really don’t understand why people who have no problem installing ROCK or Linux conveniently like to ignore that others can’t or don’t what to. This is a solution for these users.
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Sure, but you see users having troubles with it all the time on the forum. Hard to believe 
but there are people in the world who never installed an OS before. And those we see on the forum are just those who at least felt adventurous and confident enough to even try. There are surely many out there who just want to go to a shop and buy an appliance. This is for them.
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I’ve had zero difficulties to get my Roon Server to run with Linux Mint. But this machine looks good to me. It will do what I need it to do. With little to no maintenance required.
I don’t mind doing a bit of tinkering when required. But I rather spend my limited free time listening to music or do other stuff. Not spending it on setting up servers etc. Those days have long gone as far as I am concerned.
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By the way, I think there is some bias in what we get to see on the forum because those who get help through their dealers don’t turn to the forum. At least I know for a fact that my hifi dealer provides better support than that.
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Sure, no doubt. But would it be so difficult for Roon to simply say something like.
native DSD convolution native DSD output
nucleus -------- up to DSDx stere* ----------------------- USB, network
nucleus -------- up to DSDx stereo* --------------------- USB, network
nucleus One -- up to DSDx stereo* --------------------- USB, network
nucleus Titan - up to DSDx multichannel(?)* --------- USB, network*also depending on the overall DSP chain
It’s just an example.
People will ask what’s the difference. And I see years to come when we will see one and the same question coming up in this form ever and ever again.
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You are grossly oversimplifying this. Do you understand the concept of “taps” in convolution?
Different filters of different lengths have different processing power requirements at different sample rates. Now, capture all of that in a basic data table.
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No. HDMI audio put does not mean i2s. Some manufacturers just happen to use the same plug.
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HDMI ouput has always been “audio only” on Nucleus models. I do not understand why. My Mac mini offers bit perfect MCH audio, 2.0 stereo, and – and – full time video output to my 65" Sony. I use a Mac wireless keyboard and trackpad blue toothed to the mini to control playback and 100% access to browsing in the app. I could use iPad as a controller, but, as my wife says, “Bigger is better”, and the 65" proves the value of video output. I won’t be upgrading from the mini.
The problem I’ve run into trying to learn from Google and YouTube is understanding the lingo used. Every site/video I’ve found assumes the reader/viewer understands the computer/OS lingo being used. And try to look up the lingo, you get more lingo.
Put this on top of every time I’ve tried to install/do something by instructions, which are often incomplete, something unexpected (and not understood) pops up. Just trying to update the Arch Linux OS on my core/streamer recently was quite the headache. It seems this is just the way things are in computerland. I know I’m not alone when I say I hate it.
The answer is simple. RoonOS is designed to be run headless with only the basic text readout for video output. As a highly compact and specialized Linux build, RoonOS may not have the necessary software components to render graphics.
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I fully understand that Roon designs it that way. I am just not sure why. Is there an audio difference when video is added? I haven’t noticed any. Roon server on my Mac mini displays the full set of app graphics. Why can’t the Nucleus models? There is a slight cost increase I guess, but it would not be much.
Because video output doesn’t happen by magic but must be engineered. Suddenly you have to maintain a graphics stack that comes with additional complexities and failure modes. And there’s no necessity because you have and need Roon control devices with graphics anyway
Thanks for the links. 
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I have been very unhappy with the performance of the sonic orbiter finding all my roon ready devices. Will the nucleus one be more reliable in this area?