Thanks!
So the clock doesn’t really matter for me since I will use USB.
And what I want to do seems like it will work.
The DAC should work on the Aurender, the shop tested the Luxman D-10X with the same DAC on an N20.
But once my DAC comes in I can test it in store first of course.
I don’t believe your “DACs” will show as endpoints unless they have attached streamers such as Naim Atom Uniti, Auralic Altair, etc… .at least that is how I’m setup….
I have a couple of the older Aurenders that only are Roon compatible in Airplay (A10, N100SC). Aurender Conductor is a super easy app to operate and makes excellent music. You might find you like using that as well.
Aurenders have the capability of being Networked in your home network, and you can transfer music files within your own network to the Aurender Server. Makes have the ripper unneccessary if you have a computer and dBpweramp.
Well, it does… There are more than one clock signal in audio transmission over ethernet (if one can call it that).
And depending on how this is implementedone might suspect that only one clock is used to manage two (or more) endpoints with RAAT. That will i likely mean one of them will suffer out-of-sync errors.
No, it doesn’t. Both RAAT and USB simply move packets of audio data around asynchronously. The audio endpoint* controls timing. Likewise, Ethernet moves packets of data around asynchronously.
RAAT models timing, but only to make sure buffers don’t empty. So, in a nutshell, the DAC pulls music using its internal clock, and Roon pushes music on demand.
*This could be the streamer or the DAC.
Feel free to think so, but ethernet transport packages are NOT the same as USB audio packets…
And does not share the same clock (or frequency).
But it’s pointless to debate, there are very few reasons to utilize one endpoint for more than one zone regardless…
Sorry, but I need to call out this misinformation. Streamed music is data up to the point it is converted to audio by the DAC.
There are a couple of posts by Roon staffers in following thread. I hope this makes it clear to the OP.
Then why does Aurender make devices like the A30, A20 and A15 with a dedicated USB-audio output for a DAC + a built-in DAC?
If adding a dedicated USB-audio output will cause the user a lot of trouble like I read here the Aurender made a big mistake, no?
As I said before, I am not interested in multi zones, just in having the choice between 2 DACs.
I use an Allo DigiONE in this way.
- USB to Chord 2Qute
- S/PDIF to Roksan K3 CD Di
- and (S/PDIF from Roksan to 2Qute)
One device, and one network connection.
You are welcome to google OSI stack (on which the ethernet based RAAT protocol is built) and it’s transport layers. They are NOT the same or even share the same clock frequency as USB Audio 2.0 which is an USB protocol, designed for real time data transfer where the digital audio packets NEED to be in order and can be regarded as a real time protocol, with the device acting as flow control (with asynchronous transfer mode).
But i am not interested in this debate, just miffed by the ”misinformation” moniker…
My reference to anomalies in clocking was when utilising more than one zone per endpoint, and maybe Roon has this all figured out. It is all moot however if one only is interested in one zone output per device.
Now, go ahead and utilize your endpoints as you please!
Possibly because they believe there’s a market for them. Apparently they are correct…
I was just reading on Audiogon as well and I read the same in a few threads: with the N20 you can choose your DAC and later easily upgrade the DAC later, with the A20/30 you are stuck … or something along those lines.
I fail to see the logic, you can just as easily upgrade DACs with an A series, no?
Or what could be considered big drawbacks of an A vs. N series?
Have you checked on any of the HiFi Rose products?
Briefly, not interested in them.
I think they are below your price range,briefly.
I meant I looked at them briefly.
Not liking their products is not related to price, the RS130 costs about 5k while the Luxman I bought is 8k so they’re almost in the same ballpark pricewise.
Before that I had a Lumin U1 Mini, U2 Mini (about 2,5k) and a Stack Audio Link 1 and 2 (about 1,5k).
I just don’t like them as a whole, don’t like the looks and think they offer a lot of bells and whistles but wonder how well these are implemented. I somehow got the impression that their quality is not up to their asking price.
In any case I don’t think they’re up to the quality standards of Aurender and Lumin (or Lumin based) devices.
I guess beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.I think Aurender products are very nice looking but I have never used one therefore I couldn’t comment on how they sound or their bells and whistles.In person the HiFi Rose is a beautiful piece and it sounds “like you’re there”in my listening room.Good luck on your search for something that is fulfilling to your quest SFE!
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