RAID is not backup — but I survived

Back up to a large single drive or 2 and then take to a friends or family location. Encrypt it if you have sensitive data. This kind of thing doesn’t require constant updating unless you have very frequent changes to the bulk of your data…in which case you should be using rotating backups offsite too.

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Yes I have done that, have a couple of HDDs in a storage locker at work. I work from home almost all the time so it doesn’t get updated very often, and since lockdown not at all.

I would like my fibre connection to be working for lots of other reasons too!

That’s pretty quick IMHO. I am uploading a few TB and it’s taking more than a week :smiley:

@AndersVinberg,

glad to hear all is up and running again. I had to use that migration utility some time ago as well involuntarily - and it is just superb. I was up and running again in no time. Kudos to Synology.

And no - of course RAID is no backup. :sunglasses:

Whew! Good to know Synology can do that. I’ve got backups of my main Synology NAS, but to call it a backup system would be like calling how squirrels bury nuts a ‘storage system’. It’s all over the place in three different storage units. Probably should get a little disciplined about this one day.

Hmm, my experience since I’ve been using Roon, is one should back up the Roon library for software reasons. My library has been corrupted twice and neither time because of hardware.

BTW - Are you aware that Roon will back up a library that has ‘latent corruption’, doing so without any warning and until all good backups have been overlaid with backups of the corrupted library?

Nice feature. Thanks for the warning. How do you recognize ‘latent corruption’?

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You can recognize ‘latent corruption’ when Roon will no longer play and restoring even the oldest backup doesn’t change anything.

So you don’t.

I was forced to change cloud provider several years ago as the previous provider changed their price from $5 to $1500 per month, said there were some customers who had abused their “unlimited” pricing. It took three months to upload, I have plenty of bandwidth but the cloud service throttle their ingress. But once it was up there, the incremental daily backups take very little time. And the company has a disk-shipping service in case of disaster.

Yes. I have been at two companies that sell backup software, and I have always told the guys that their industry is misnamed: nobody wants backup, what they want is restore.

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There is definitely a big initial upload hump to get over. After that it should be ok as you say. I’m also concerned about the affect any long running upload would have on our download performance since we are a heavy internet using household! Standard ADSL just isnt really meant for multiple concurrent uploads and downloads.

If and when I get my fibre connection I’m going with Azure storage I think, no throttling of ingress or egress and I get $150 per month of credit free due to being a Visual Studio (used to be called MSDN) subscriber.

I am a fan of Synology. My 3.9TB library is on a 4TB SSD in my Nucleus+, with daily one way sync to a Synology NAS. This in turn is backed up to Synology’s C2 cloud back up service. So I feel safe.

My library is growing and will soon need more space than my 4TB SSD. Anyone care to recommend their favourite solution?

I have looked into cloud backup solutions in the past and the cost is always the issue with a large library. I end up buying more hard discs to do offline storage, or another NAS.

The synology cloud service doesn’t look cheap either (ignoring any convenience factors):

https://c2.synology.com/en-us/backup#tab_plan

If you have a 4TB library say, what is the cheapest cloud backup that anyone uses and can recommend?

IDrive is doing a promotion at the moment which makes it good value IMO

Tom’s Guide has done a decent comparison of other services as well

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It is not cheap - you’re right - I am lucky enough to include the cost in my business expenses. Previously I have used Backblaze which is slightly cheaper and includes a range of restore options from fresh downloads to disk-by-post. That’s probably what I would recommend from my own experience…

Have a look here, were 7,68TB SSD is discussed, and apparently works

I just put a 4TB SSD in my NUC as I was getting sick of Roon not reporting changes on files held on my Synology NAS automatically. Big enough for now. I will place it on a backup routine very similar to yours. I love the Synology system and would have preferred keeping my audio files there, but here we go…

I used to drop a usb backup disk at my sister’s for off site storage when we visited but that is disrupted of late…

Go through the library and trim some of the music you know you’ll never listen to. Put it on another watched folder on a spinning drive.

I think that’s the solution - keep most listened-to tracks in the easiest place to access them. Presumably I can plug the spinning drive into the vacant USB socket in the Nucleus and it will find it automatically?