Will check this when I am home! Thanks
It was changed over a year ago.
I never take that kind of information as clear fact, done too much testing in my time. I’ve seen things in dropdowns which aren’t actually applied (not in Roon specifically). Software testing is a pain and it’s easy for a odd quirk to get through into a release.
Not saying they have, but I know I have not touched that setting before and now it’s sounding like it should again. I actually diary the settings changes I did so I could always know what I have changed.
It’s not finger pointing, or guesswork, just that I’ve done a lot of testing in my time and odd sequences of events can throw up quirks that developers haven’t spotted or accounted for. (Otherwise bug fixes wouldn’t come out all the time for most software!)
I’m happy anyway, my setup is sounding great again.
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Mods have shifted some of the extended side discussions off into their own threads. Just keeping socks in the sock drawer.
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Hmmm…mine doesn’t have those options.
Is it because I’m accessing the setting via my iPad mini 2 (I don’t use a computer to access Roon)?
I agree that SQ changed in 1.5 in unpleasant way. It is too much for me to elaborate case, but since 1.5 I have changed my player to the other one.
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It’s possible that this happens on an iPad, but not on a PC or Mac. I don’t have an iOS or Android device to check this. Anyone else?
Yes, Geoff and @Saturn94, you can only adjust the install settings using the Windows or Mac versions of Roon.
Cheers, Greg
Same SQ issue on all platforms, tried myself .
Where in Roon settings does it show what version of Roon is currently running? Can’t find anywhere.
Settings --> About (in the upper right corner)
This sounds more like an anti-MQA diatribe and no it’s not going to unfold to 96khz without a renderer or full decode dac.
I’m finding MQA sounds great with my iFi DSD Nano as a renderer.
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Ok I was the guy who started the thread Roon is brighter in its new guise. I just for the first time engaged Headroom Management. -2 eliminates most of the slight hard nature I originally described. Thanks for the input.
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Did you notice the dot changing to Red occasionally? If so, that would help explain what you heard as the signal was being clipped.
If not, all you did was reduce the gain by 2dB.
Which could possibly help the sound of an oversampling DAC that doesn’t do the equivalent internally. Digital music lacking head room dependent of course.
No red dot ever I use a Mytek Manhattan II with Roon card. The -2db seemed to help but I still think this version of Roon is brighter than before. Many years of careful listening to my pal David Cheaky’s recordings I have learnt to listen to a systems neutrality while being aware of my own preferences and biases. When you hear a live session then hear the recording you can instantly hear the shortcomings of your playback chain. Speaking for myself I tailor the system to be as faithful as I can to the live event without compromising my required “musicality”. Roon 1.5 is brighter than reality!
Is not it hard to tell where the truth is ? Should you really blame Roon 1.5 when others have opposite opinion (that is my case, in the sense I feel closer to live music, rather with a fairer sense of detail than a spectral bias) ?
Say your system is in fact marginally bright and the tiny shaded bias of 1.4 put together a nice balance comparable to live, that you perhaps even optimized your system on ? With all respect due to experience of Chesky’s faithful care of sound reproduction, this might quite well remove the recording bias but leaves room for other compensations. Some grounding or imperfect power supply for example, can bring edginess in an otherwise neutral system that will measure flat.
Many causes of brightness can be considered especially when picky - might be talking about 0.1 dB only. Start playing around with Room DSP and you will see how sensitive that is…
We all suffer this dilemma… in our imperfect rooms, that, is far more than 0.1 dB bias - although our sophisticated software (the one installed between our ears) learns to absorb it somehow.
Fair point. My system is tuned to my preference so who knows??? Tubes or SS, Horns or Electrostatics, idlers or belt, all a personal choice.
Last month a friend came around to listen to my system. Every track he played on Tidal/Roon sounded bright and edgy. This was on Roon 1.4. I have not heard any degradation in Roon 1.5 and MQA sounds much better than hi-rez files.
I suspect any bright/edgy sound may be in the recordings.