Roon's own fully integrated music streaming service

Yeah I do that now when a series or two pops up I want to watch wait until it’s all available then subscribe for a month.

Netflix and Amazon loose studio material all the time and both have suffered to what that content is since Studios have their own service and moved them across. The price they charge for the new stuff that’s not made it to the subscription platforms yet is however really high but not as much as taking the family to the Cinema.

I use a ROKU attached to my TV as the streamer. In the main ROKU home page I can search for a movie or TV series and it will find it (if it is available anywhere), and show me which services have it (sometimes several), and if not free, the cost of renting the stream. Then I simply select the service I want to watch it on, and ROKU takes me there. Works well.

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Plex has same feature to do this as well.

We’ve yet to see anything substantive that justifies Samsung’s acquisition of Roon. Roon says that the additional resources will help them achieve their goals. Fine. But what are Samsung’s goals? Has to be some combination of a) advantage their hardware brand(s) and sales through new capabilities (e.g., multi-room, more streaming capabilities) and/or b) profit from subscription revenue of one form or another.

Two things strike me.

  1. Patents are worth money. And sometimes just making sure someone else doesn’t own them is well worth your while: How Apple and Microsoft Armed 4,000 Patent Warheads | WIRED Does Roon have any patents to its name ?

  2. User data is valuable. What data, if any, did Samsung/Harman receive when it took over Roon ? On this topic it’d be interesting to know how many users Roon has, and of these which are monthly, which annual and which lifetime ? Is this public information ?

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Official numbers are not public.

Thanks. I see topic has come up before and the order of magnitude is a few hundred thousand. Number of roon users? - #5 by RobOK

It’s news to me that Harman is a Samsung company. I just read the Wikipedia article on Harman/Kardon. Apparently it did not get gobbled up by a Japanese conglomerate until 2017 (if you don’t count the period where the receiver division was Japanese owned until Harman bought it back).

I’m still a dinosaur with a CD collection, vinyl collection, and little interest in streaming services. So I vote no. I’d prefer, if anything, Roon work on integrating more classical friendly services like Apple Music/Primephonic.

Actually, Samsung is Korean. My bad.

Well Apple Music won’t be happening. As Apple won’t allow their service to be used by Roon outside of Apple’s own hardware. So Windows is out of the question.

Ironic though, as Apple Music can be played through Apple’s own Windows software…

Not really as it’s using their own software so they have full control of all the data and not opening it up to a 3rd party.

Cloudplay is NOT a streaming service , it’s a collection of user provided playlists held on a cloud sever for JRiver with some licensing deal.

All you can select is a genre or style of playlist curated by someone else.

It is not on demand streaming ala Tidal, Qobuz etc , you can’t select a specific album for example , indeed you cannot even load n album just a mixed playlist AFAIK

Indeed JimH will NOT EVEN DISCUSS TIDAL SUPPORT, in their request for features for V32 I suggested it , my post was deleted and in a PM I was “warned” by JimH not to discuss Tidal on their forum !!

Mike perhaps you missed the /s at the bottom of that post :wink:

I saw it . It meant nothing to me ? XML ?

Yep, he was just yanking our chain. /s = sarcasm :wink:

The symbol “/s” is often used on internet forums and social media to indicate sarcasm in written text. It’s a way for people to clarify that their previous statement was meant to be taken ironically or humorously, rather than literally.

Gotcha

Not a great social media user learn something new everyday :roll_eyes:

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Me either, it step on it all the time. All good fun :+1:t2:

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