Well, because Roon has no contract with Spotify atm.
Heâs talking the app/experience â you are not using Luminâs app, you are the Spotify app with the Lumin box.
Sonos and Tesla are 2 of the only commercial entities out there that have an alternative experience to the Spotify app.
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Best outcome for Roon would be if Spotify or Amazon or even Apple get interested in them.
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If roon were to get acquired by anyone, google is by far the best bet. Can you imagine the addition of all the video content? Game changer.
Are you surprised? What you said was unnecessary and unfounded, and not representative of this community.
Itâs clearly evident that Billie Ellish is emotionally intelligent, talented and an excellent role model. Your concern about âgreen hairâ is misplaced and ignores the fact she rejects the sexualisation of young women.
So yes, you should stop this.
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@Danny. Thanks for all the engagement on this topic. As a Ronn user I stream VIA Qobuz due to the excellent SQ. I use to also have AM. But frankly I was frustrated with their interface as well as SQ. So I canceled and went to Qobuz family plan. My Kids hated it and so I added Spotify family. Using it over the last 6 months , I can honestly say they have the best interface and AI. Their "Daily "play list are spot on. Extremely Intuitive and fun to use. Having said the the best case scenario with be Spotify included with Roon. As I get older my objective is to listen to the best HQ the easiest way. If Spotify delivers on their SQ promise , and Roon cant /wonât support it I will force mw to look at those that do.
Edit: BTW after my first month on using Roon I also bought a Nucleus. So a fan here
People just donât care about privacy or lack of. Spotify employees could come and pull their pants down in public and people would still say: hey, great service thanks 
Iâm not gonna hold my breath for full Spotify intergration, but it would be nice if Roon supported Spotify Connect.
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It would be interesting to know if Roon is getting offers to buy the company .
Share an example?
I would say goodbye to both Tidal and Roon if Spotify Lossless hits market.
I only use Roon as a Tidal delivery mechanism.
I do enjoy the Roon Interface and experience, but Spotify is more than fine, and the AI engine is great.
I suspect there would be many Roon users like me.
Spotify connect already supports lossless 44.1khz.
Pair with a Spotify connect endpoint and your enjoying lossless without the MQA rubbish.
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Never say never, but this is highly unlikely
Roon have had absolutely no success with negotiations, and not through a lack of trying.
Spotify want to control their experience, and data collection.
Spotify doesnât need Roon. This makes the requirements that Roon asks of a streaming providers a definite no go with Spotify, IMO.
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IMO, you donât need sampling rates higher than Redbook.
Music quality is more about the master and mix, than the rate at which it is sampled.
I have plenty of Redbook that sounds absolutely stunning.
Anyway, most music is released in Redbook.
90% of Qobuz is Redbook?!
I also very much dislike MQA, and what it standards for.
So Spotifyâs announcement is a win for those that donât support MQA.
It makes the decision leave Tidal very very easy.
IMO, Spotify offers an amazing music library, fantastic AI engine and a beautiful interface. Whatâs not to like.
Its also family accessible, something I would argue Roon is yet to achieve (1.8 brings us closer, but the software is still too complicated for many family users).
If you stream your music library, I suspect the value proposition for Roon just became even narrower.
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It all depends on what youâre using Roon for. I use it almost exclusively for streaming Qobuz (I have a small local library in addition). But I also use DSP and enjoy the ability to tweek information once albums are saved to my library. Streaming Spotify on PC obviously allows for 3rd party DSP, but other end points are more complicated.
Another small thing (but important for me) is Spotifyâs use of track volume normalisation rather than album normalisation when it comes to playlists. Not a major thing, but Roon gives you the choice.
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Although Roon is not exactly perfect and there is still a lot to complain about, which I regurlary do and will keep on doing, it is far better than Spotifyâs interface. One thing all streaming apps arenât good at is building your own collection. Well, you can save playlists and albums but finding it back to play again later becomes pretty horrific once your collection grows. I have no problem with Tidal, especially since I tested I could use it on no less than 14 devices at the same time, with Spotify, only on 1.
I am like you in the sense that I only use Roon with Tidal. I have yet to purchase any digital music, and I donât plan to.
I feel Roon enhances Tidalâs lackluster experience on iOS and macOS.
I would need more detail on how Spotify defines their âlosslessâ tier. Theyâve been barking up the â320 is more than any human needsâ tree for a long time. Is this just a money grab?
It depends on who pulls their pants down.
Of course its a money grab. The streaming market must be getting saturated and they are looking for more niche avenues to increase income. Look at Spotifyâs big play into podcasts recently.
Iâm sure Apple is coming soon with cd quality but they have lots of good hardware so they donât need it as much as Spotify does.
