Support for Wavpack (.wv) DSF compression

Well, I get your point here Aneta. But it so happens I don’t have a lot of money. Hard drive space is valuable to me. WV’s support for lossless compression means that software that can decompress this during playback can give me DSD using approximately half the space (2 channel). No loss of sound quality, half the storage space used – what’s not to like about it? When I play back WV compressed files in for instance Foobar2000, it gives me the original DSD through my DAC. You might not be aware of this? Roon supporting WV will enable a lot of users to compress their DSD files to almost half size. Of course, if you only have a few albums in this format, it won’t matter much. I have several thousands. So for me, it’s actually a very big deal.

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I believe WAV is certainly not the “way to go” unless you are already invested in this format and don’t relish the thought of converting to another format. Both FLAC and WAV are lossless formats; both retain the original quality, both sound the same. However, WAV has very limited support for metadata (tagging) unlike FLAC.

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Your use case seems perfectly valid to me. Others seem to agree with you. As it happens I had a different use case in mind. It’s business travel. Maybe it wasn’t very clear in the OP.

I can see this being great for such a case as yours. I don’t have a large SACD collection, but I can still see this as being very useful for budget minded folks (like me :grinning:).

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DST (Direct Stream Transfer), the original format for compressing SACD is more efficient than WAVPack.

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I’m not using WavPack nor am I likely to use WavPack in the future, but looking at their webpage it does seem that there should not be any reason why Roon couldn’t include support for it. It’s open source, multi platform and avoiding patented stuff.

Then again, if only a few people are interested in it, it might not be worth the effort unless everything worth doing is already done :slight_smile: I actually have no idea how big of an effort it would be, but I assume it’s not a big thing.

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Interesting article. I don’t think it is widely understood that SACD was routinely (losslessly) compressed. But I don’t see DST compression as a practical option. Foobar for example will playback a DST compressed ISO but roon will not playback an ISO, compressed or otherwise. What roon will playback is DFF or DSF.

Must admit I am surprised by the sudden interest in this thread. I was actually the OP almost exactly a year a go. The first response was 8 months later so I assumed there was no interest at all, and just use other players on the road.

Support for Meta data tags and embedded artwork.

This is something I would very much like to be supported in a future update.

To be able to handle the taging part (mp3tag) for lossless dsd, the same way as all my other formats in my collection(flac, mp3)

Please incorporate this, especially if its licens free!!! :thinking: pretty please!

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Hi Roon Dev,

I think is time to add Wavpack support in Roon. More and more music is published in this format and is very good format for 32bit music.

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Assuming it is natively supported by taglib I can’t imagine there’s much effort involved in adding support.

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I do not think this is very complex to implement.
Leading software should support multiple formats.

Regards Chris

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Yes, Wavepack dsd decoding would be a solution I’d probably use.
You have to consider a DSF collection at scale…
In my scenario that would be an estimated 8TB gain

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Just to bump this. I’d like to compress and tag my DFF much like I do my PCM content. Doing so at present means those albums won’t be visible in Roon.

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bump from me as well… this would be such a great feature to implement.

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another bump! I never was into wavpack as flac rules for pcm.
But for dsf, wavpack saves about 50% of storage.

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I would love to see this feature added as well. I converted all of my SACD extracted tracks to .wv for the reduced size and superior tagging. DSD compressed to .wv is supported on foobar and moode, so I assumed roon would support it as well. I kept my ISO files so of course I could re-extract everything to DSF, but .wv is a great container for DSD.

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I would enjoy wavpack support in Roon too. But @Analogue_Ghost there is no need to re-extract DSF from your ISOs, you can just use the wavpack tool to extract them from the wv file - exactly the same, and that’s the point!

Cheers,
Robert

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Yes, you are 100% correct! The wavpack tool absolutely would be the better way to go if/when I decide to make the switch back.

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Bump from me as well.

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