Additional to what has already been mentioned, the smart lists would be more compelling if it was possible to add genre to individual tracks.
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Surely a “boost” is needed for the focus function.
It also needs to provide the same options in the various sections (if I wanted to create an SPL with live tracks, I couldn’t do it because it’s not in the “my tracks” focus, so all those “mixed” albums where there are also live tracks are not considered)
Hello @michael , related to «make them smarter» see my proposals items 1, 6 and 7 here
In general i would not limit «smarter» to SPLs.
Both Radio and Daily mixes has the potential to improve and become «smarter». My thinking here is that «smarter» goes beyond pure rules and logic like more boolean instructions being added to Focus , which is also welcomed.
Though i am not hugely impressed by the use of AI alone to create PLs/Radio (Plex , Soundiiz).
I believe that a combination of user input (Focus) and AI/Sonic analyzis would be the best solution where the user input has priority over «the machine» 
Extending Focus to include streaming sources would be a good starting point , especially for discovery.
This could be implemented and released as smaller increments as long as direction is defined and the underlying architecture supports this .
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Also the ability that musicip had to manipulate the playlist.
More/less like this track.
Jagged or smooth
How many tracks or how long
Etc
Done in freeform language or in selectors to each person’s preference.
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I’m glad to have found this thread - I primarily listen to Shuffles of saved focus bookmarks. Now that these SPL can be accessed via ARC, an important part of the puzzle has been solved ! - That’s a positive. In hindsight, I was initially turned off by SPL’s mostly because of what I assumed or didn’t know. The name along the SPL Icon conjured up thoughts / visions of some additional AI layer being involved in what was being returned from the selection - What I’m hearing now from this thread is that not the case, which is great!
I do have some questions / comments though on how Roon deals with Focus results and shuffles:
For example, lets say I a create a Focus, and the results of that focus returns 10 albums. Let say then 9 of the 10 albums have 10 tracks, and the 10th album has 20 tracks. My question is, what is happening when I hit ‘Shuffle’ ? Is Roon selecting a track from the 10 albums, or from a pool of 110 songs? I’m pretty sure there is a significant difference, so I’m curious how it works.
Along those same lines perhaps, what’s happening with this:
Here is a basic Focus that returns 4056 albums:
If I want to make sure i don’t hear something I’ve heard recently, I would add ‘played in the the last month’ - now it trims it down to 953 Albums- Is Roon throwing out the the entire album if a single track has been played within the last 30 days? If so, It feels like its sort of a Catch 22 - Is there a way to create Focuses & SPL’s based on the track level not just the Album level ? (or is it really already doing that?) thanks!
pbg
Make the same focus in Track view, and you get what you’re looking for
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Great - Thank you!
pbg
Other suggestions for SPs:
- duration of track (only play jazz pieces between 5:00 and 9:00 long)
- year of track, yes, of course
- recency of import, not date (i.e. feature the last sixty tracks I imported, whether that was a week ago or a month ago)
And, yes, SPs that cascade. My favorite iTunes execution was a pile of SLs that, together, would define one “master list” (Beatles songs, say, or pop from 1982-1989) and then play a song that began with A, a song beginning with B, a song beginning with C, and so on. Made for a combination of DJing and puzzle thinking that I still miss.
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