After 2 months, leaving roon

Looks like I missed the point…
I have a total of maybe 10 ripped CDs.

Everything else I get from qobuz and Tidal.

Having the DSP features, roon Radio and having everytjing working like one service was reason enough for me to get the lieftime license.

That roon works across multiple devices , multiroom streaming and that it’s accessible for the whole family was just the cherry on top.

You can tweak and daisy-chain other apps as much as you want… when they have the look, feel and accessibility of a Xbox media center from 2005 it’s just not going to work.


Sheesh…Your first sentence is well…an opinion. The 2nd is simply rude.

Here’s another way to look at it with tabular clarity:

I think you kinda missed the point why people probably use roon.

And obviously it’s nice that there are free and cheap alternatives but aren’t you just looking for a excuse to avoid paying money for roon? :wink:


We all seem to be collecting subscriptions like they’re going out of fashion, which they’re unfortunately not (yet), sometimes you gotta do a reality check.


I have used CD’s and SACD’s for quite a while, but I quit using them for the following reasons:

  • My family kept using them as coasters.
  • When you use them with the curtains open you can be blinded by the sun.
  • I couldn’t read the tiny text on the cover.
  • When the CD is in the drawer you can’t see it anymore.
  • Every time my favorite band releases a new CD I have to go out and buy one.

That’s why I decided to buy myself a life long Roon subscription. As well as Qobuz. They go along just fine and I can use it everywhere without risking my eyesight. Since I use my Android phone as remote I can find additional info and pics that I can zoom in a quadrilzilion times.


I just bought a heat pump just to drop that subscription to the propane company. Solar roof next. Then, roon lifetime memberships for all my family and neighbors.

Went for the lieftime subscription as well. Just recently. So I paid around 650€.

But I believe it’s worth it. I don’t see Roon Going out of business. And looks like other companies including apple etc don’t care to offer something similar.

But I didn’t want to pay for another subscription and subscription prices will probably only be going up from now on.


I suppose that is “tabular clarity”. I like open source too, but I am not a programmer and open source can be difficult to use as it is constantly changing. I have no idea how to use all the tools you list to integrate the CDs on my SSD drive with Qobuz where I can change zones and control my stereo equipment etc. Roon makes it easy.


PS several of your Open Source aps are NOT

Minim server (to use fully)

Kazoo is free but a Linn app

To mention a few


UpnP is not spoken by all, Bluesound is but one example.

This reminds me of the PC/Mac “debate” back in the day.

is not in the open source column, is it?
Neither is Sonos as plenty of others.

is good for making us think.

roon is a great product for many folks. For others who desire more options, there are many choices.

My apologies. I understood the matrix entry ‘universal spoken by all’ to mean spoken universally by all streaming products not only the ones mentioned in the matrix.

I disagree on the UPnP thing. Problems with Audirvana and different UPnP implementations are what brought me to try Roon and I stayed :slight_smile:

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Exactly the universal in UPnP is really not so, too many interpretations and not one seems to work well with all the others. Gapless being the main one along with format support on lesser hardware. I have a number of upnp renderers that don’t even support flac and gapless never works.


I think you make a good point.
Before I bought into Roon I spent a great deal of time gathering up my many thousands of scattered tracks accumulated over many years (including hundreds of rip’d CDs) and centralized them on a single Mac Mini. I used that machine, via a wireless NAD DAC, to drive my main stereo system (across the room). To use this setup I had to remote into the Mac, startup whatever music app was required, navigate to the desired music and start playing it. If I remembered to switch the pre-amp on my system to AUX the music would play. Sometimes REALLY LOUD. Quick: run over to the preamp and turn down the volume. And of course I couldn’t listen on any of the other devices or in any other rooms. But it did provide access to my music files. But this required another computer or iPad to work. Also with my music scattered across three or four machines it was often impossible to find what I was looking for.
The flexibility that Roon added to my listening is really remarkable. It is expensive, especially if you want to subscribe to a streaming service on top of the Roon subscription, but it does a lot.
One aspect of Roon that I rarely hear discussed is its “spousal friendliness”. My wife doesn’t always want to hear my music when she’s in the living room or kitchen. She installed Roon on her iPhone and she can “magically” adjust the volume or stop the music. This avoids the previous approach which was to find me or simply to turn off the entire system (which I try not to do; it’s old). Everyone is happier now.
So as long as the money holds out I think I’ll stay with Roon. If and when Roon goes away or in a different direction or I am too poor to pay for Roon I’ll have to cobble something together on my own.


Stuff that doesn’t support gapless playback isn’t even worth mentioning.

Why plenty that doesn’t dependant on what software you use. This is my point UPnP isn’t universal. It cant even guarantee gapless on all hardware.

I’m new to Roon, but I’m not new to streaming players. I had the original Roku Music streamer (2005?), before they went Netflix. I spent ~10 years with Logitech LMS server (6 SB Radios), and all the nightmares that it had with multi-room streaming and Spotify.

I jumped at the Roon 3 month trial, and I just paid the yearly fee.

I’m running my Roon Core on a cheap Synology 216+ with 8GB RAM, and it works perfectly.
I have 100,000+ tracks, and I’m not an audiophile. I just want PERFECT MULTI ROOM streaming, and Roon does that with DI.FM and my local music. (I’m using 4 cheap Chromecast Audio’s)
Spotify works perfectly also, but that’s outside Roon.

For me, the subscription cost for the Roon software is just a way to say Thank You to the devs. I could purchase the lifetime, but I chose not to. The Roon team loves music as much as I do, and I want them to continue for as long as possible.

I can understand if others disagree, but I’ve spent nearly 20 years looking for this level of quality, and I could not be more satisfied!

Thank you Roon!