ALAC vs FLAC for CD ripping?

You’re the one who said he’d do a blind ABX test of AIFF vs ALAC. We’re still waiting for your results…

If I can find an app that actually works for an ABX text, I’ll certainly do it but I don’t know why you care what I think anyways. You have your own ears, do the test yourself. Hear no difference, you’re good to go. Everyone hears differently anyways.

ABXTester.app works fine. You just need to grant it access to the music files you want to ABX (in System Preferences → Security & Privacy → Files and Folders). See Apple’s Support Page.

Nope, it’s not compatible with Catalina. I heard back from the guy in Japan who wrote it. Have to wait for an update.

Ok. (So do I, btw. I have used the M-Scaler over USB from the Nucleus, now use it through a MicroRendu because it’s in a different room.)

My point was, a USB connection is a completely different architecture from what Linn is talking about. Your quote is irrelevant to your argument.

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No it’s not. they, Linn, state there’s an inherent audio quality difference between the FLAC and WAV files, which backs up what I have been saying precisely.

What does exclusive mode have to do with the what the processor is doing outside of Roon? Also, “not doing much of anything else” is more than what Roon does when decompressing FLAC.

How does what Roon does on your MAC decompressing FLAC make it through the legendary M Scaler with galvanically isolated inputs and outputs to your Hugo TT2? Based on what Rob says, that should not be possible.

Look, if you want to believe this fantasy that AIFF is better than FLAC, go ahead. But your “technical” arguments are fallacious at best. What you say makes not sense when viewed from a technical perspective.

That’s the problem. Isn’t it?

I mean, when I drop some cheap blotter, I have amazing experiences. Usually. But they are not evaluations of… well, of anything, really. A proper evaluation has to be based on more than an experience.

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No, that is not what Linn says. In regard to power rails in the DS, Linn says that “WAV shows more clearly defined peaks due to regular network activity and processing” while “FLAC shows more broadband disturbance due to increased (but more random) processor activity.” They go on to say “There is no measurable difference (down to a noise floor measured in micro-volts) between FLAC and WAV in any of the audio power rails.”

How you get “inherent audio quality difference between the FLAC and WAV files” is beyond me.

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But in a different architecture.
With a shared power rail.
You don’t have that.

Hmmm, sounds like you might be making the trip up to Madison occasionally.

Count me in but I need an earwax diddledisquat compensator. I may be able to pay a small deposit in a bluetooth moon. Or 3.5 million random bits to be done with it.

This is extremely easy to answer.
For the purest with plenty of money to spend on hard drive space WAV. Sounds best as it’s original.
For us normal people FLAC is King.
For Apple users AIFF slight loss in quality from the two formats above, but only very slightly.

That’s just not correct. Best? Better than the same file delivered in FLAC? Why would it sound better, it’s the same.

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Wow. There is a lot of misinformation floating around here. AIFF and WAV contain uncompressed PCM. They are different containers. That’s it. There is no loss in quality between WAV and AIFF or FLAC and AIFF!!

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None of these formats should be used
If you love your CD, and you want to archive, rip it there is only
one good format, and that is WAV.
WAV is the original master format of the CD, so no other format is
better.
Harddisks are getting bigger in format size, so it’s no excuse to cripple your music with data reduction and compression,
WAV sounds better than Flac, If you cannot hear the difference it’s time for a better stereo equipment (or maybe wash your ears :slight_smile:
)

No lossless wrapper is worse either. They are the same when unpacked.

I can’t hear a difference and on your say so, £11,000 of Meridian DSP speakers is not good enough, or could it be possible they build them to mitigate the problems, so much of the need for after market gadgetry is removed at source?

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Sigh. More misinformation and speculation and no facts.

Music is stored on a CD in PCM. When CDs are ripped, the PCM data is stored in some container that the computer and the programs that run on it can understand. That might be WAV, FLAC, AIFF, ALAC, etc. All of the lossless containers hold the exact same PCM data. Some compress it while some don’t. There is no loss of data unless you use a lossy compression container.

Uncompressed containers may sound better than compressed containers but I have never heard that with my equipment. I have good equipment and good ears. Use the Roon Core/Roon Endpoint model and there will be no difference.

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