I have the problem that a large number of albums are not displayed in the composer overview. I've just noticed it again with the works by Olivier Messiaen, which are all missing from this display. I have checked the metadata and they are OK. But I would also like to find the corresponding albums. Perhaps Roon is of the opinion that Messiaen is not good for me. But I would like to decide for myself. Is that possible? The problem doesn't just affect Messiaen, of course, but I've just noticed it again here because none of the albums I have on my hard drive are displayed.
Describe your network setup
I have a Huawei router here that I don't know the name of, and a FRITZ!Box in my other flat. The problem is obviously not dependent on the network hardware.
I don’t understand that. How can I take a screenshot of an album that is not displayed? Messiaen’s albums (and quite a few others) are not displayed on the composer’s overview page, so they are not visible on screenshots.
I assumed that you meant that they were in your library (hence visible in the Album browser), but not being displayed in the Composer browser. If this is not what you meant can you be clearer in what you mean.
I’ve never used the album browser before and I don’t really know how to search for these albums. I usually search for the composer and then go to the composer’s page to find the album that contains the work I want to listen to. That seems to me the logical way to go, just as I would when accessing my CD collection.
And just as it is difficult there to find or photograph a CD that is not there, it is the same here. Once again: certain albums that I know for sure are there are simply not displayed. So the question is, what criteria does Roon use to select what is displayed and what is not? If I know these criteria, I can perhaps use them as a guide.
It sounds very much to me as though Roon has found it difficult to properly identify your albums. I suggest that you get to know the Album browser as a means to examine what has gone wrong.
A first step might be to ask Roon to display all the albums that it has not been able to identify. Go to the Album browser, and use the Focus function to display all the albums that it has been able to identify, like so:
These will be albums where Roon has used the metadata in the files to create the album entry. Sometimes, metadata can lead Roon astray, it’s always a good idea to follow what Roon expects:
The Focus function in the Album browser allows you to select all albums by a composer, if that’s your preferred way of searching your collection.
This is definitely not the cause. I have only found two of the albums that are not displayed in this way. Both are correctly identified. They are just not displayed on the composer’s page. (Incidentally, there are an alarming number of albums that are listed as unidentified, including many that I have already identified manually. However, this has no influence on whether the albums are displayed on the composer’s page or not. What really shocked me is the fact that many individual parts that I have already manually merged into albums and then identified are repeatedly displayed as individual parts. That just doesn’t seem to work
Please post a screenshot of the album page of one of these.
Roon expects to find album releases, where all the tracks of a released album are contained in a folder. If you’ve been creating your own structure, then you are likely to end up with something that Roon does not expect, and strange things will occur.
Yes, that’s a good example - I take it that it is not listed in the “Composed by” section of Messiaen?
I 've just added this album to my library, and, like you, I’m not seeing it included in the “Composed by” section of Messiaen, but it is listed in the “Compositions” section:
There definitely is something strange here. I added this album from Tidal to my library. And for me, it is not included in Messiaen’s discography nor in compositions.
Roon does recognise it as a work though.
Edit: it is listed under compositions, but I happened to have the same recording in another edition, and it was listed here with the album cover from the other album.
That’s not the only case. The same applies to all the works by Messiaen that I have on the server. I also noticed it with some albums with music by Schnittke, and in other cases too, but I didn’t memorise them because when I’m not busy with work, I prefer to spend my time listening to music rather than finding the errors in Roon. In any case, I find it unsatisfactory that I always have to reckon with tracks from my music library not appearing in Roon.
It’s not a spereate issue. It’s just this: I have albums on my hard disk which don’t appear on the composer’s page. It’s not that I have these compositions in other albums. (And even this may happen and can’t be the cause that tha album is not dislplayed, I think. Or do have to decide, in which album I want to have the composition and delete all other versions? I don’t believe this.)
When I use the focus feature on the album page, I get the same result: there is only one album by Messiaen. Strangely enough, as of today it’s a different one. But it’s still only one. (I’m sure this problem is not unique to Messiaen, but I don’t have the time to search through the whole media library, so I only find such errors when I come across them by chance).
I’ve already realised that something is wrong. That’s why I’m asking how I can find out what it is. I have checked the metadata several times. As far as I can influence them, they are perfectly fine. Of course, Roon uses the metadata that it wants, not necessarily the metadata that I have entered in the files (and doesn’t care about the corresponding setting.)
But at the moment I have a completely different, much more serious problem, namely that since the last update, the beginning of tracks is constantly being skipped, sometimes even entire tracks. I’ve had this problem before, and it’s always been fixed, but now it’s back, and my task now is to somehow realise why I’m so stubbornly insisting on using Roon, even though I encounter unsolvable problems at every turn that I’ve never had with the (really bad) Sonos app. Why I put myself through this is a mystery to me…
