A few weeks ago Chesky Records offered a free prelease download of the hi-res version of a new album by The New Appalachians called From The Mountaintop.
Great recording. I am enjoying it. Thank you Chesky.
It downloaded fine and added seamlessly to my iTunes library. The title appeared in Roon and played fine.
But the track names, etc. do not appear in Roon. (The album credit info is there, including the genre and release date.) Since the release date was October 30, 2015, I thought maybe Roonâs database couldnât display track info for items not yet released. So I waited til after October 30 to see if the track info appeared.
I have tried everything to get this albumâs track names to appear in Roon but am having no success.
Two suggestions. Firstly, try identifying the album again.
Secondly, until Roon/Tidal catches up with the album, you can prefer the track title metadata from the file to Roon. To do this go to the track listing for the album. Select the first track (right click or tablet long press), select all (ctrl-a or tablet option top left), Edit, Metadata Preference, Title, Prefer File.
Hopefully one of the above things should get you track titles, but if not we can notify a dev and they will investigate further.
Hey @dbtom2 â I can see this album in our database and you are correct â our entry for the album has no track titles. Iâve opened a ticket in our bug tracker, but for now I think @andybobâs workaround here should do:
This raises a question for me regarding Roonâs handling of metadata. If a file has embedded metadata that is not present in Roonâs own metadata i.e. Roonâs metadata sources yield a blank field whilst the fileâs underlying metadata contains entries for that field, should it be necessary to have to explicitly tell Roon to use the underlying metadata?
Ages ago I was involved in development of an audio tagger for Linux. One of the capabilities it has is what we called masstagging whereby you could load as many albums you want to a masstagging queue and then define or apply a previously defined ruleset for the masstagger, effectively specifying which fields to populate from what tag sources (Musicbrainz, Discogs, Freedb, Amazon etc.) and the sequence in which tag sources are to be polled. The ruleset can also stipulate that if a field already has a value derived from a tag source that was polled earlier during the masstagging process, to then retain it rather than overwrite what came before.
I guess Iâm advocating for:-
default enrichment of Roonâs metadata where its own sources come up empty but the underlying file has data covering a field that Roon uses.
an ability to âRefreshâ the user DB periodically (on demand, at userâs discretion) whereby Roon checks file supplied metadata it has used against itâs own sources and uses is own where it is now available (ignoring of course instances where a user has configured Roon to prefer the userâs metadata over Roonâs).
If we have no data, we already default back to the tags in your files.
In this case, the bug is that weâve allowed empty track titles to be populated into our database, so Roon thinks we have data to display here. Once this bug is fixed, our database shouldnât ever have empty track titles.
Itâs possible Iâm misunderstanding and maybe you know this already, but to be clear: metadata in Roon is stored in three independent layers: Roonâs metadata; the metadata from your files; and any custom data you enter into Roon by hand.
For a given album, the Roon metadata updates automatically once a week. However, if youâve opted to prefer tag data or made a custom edit, any new data retrieved for that field in the Roon layer wonât be displayed.
@mike, thanks, that clarifies it. Iâll be diving in shortly.[quote=âmike, post:6, topic:4672â]
n this case, the bug is that weâve allowed empty track titles to be populated into our database, so Roon thinks we have data to display here
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I just put the John Mark Nelson album titled Iâm Not Afraid into my Tidal library and it too shows NO track names. The name of the album is correct but no track info. When I tried what Andybob suggested it changed from nothing listed under Tracks to showing tracks as Track 1, Track 2, etc. So still some bugs to figure out with this.