Apple iPhone Duo

Looks very cool, what do you think of it? Would you consider buying it?

Very favorable impression by 1st look.

Too rich for my blood. :-1:

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I am on my third Pixel Pro Fold (11 Pro Fold), and I know people that have had the Samsung fold devices for 7 or 8 generations.

The technology works great and is by now mostly reliable and more rugged. Cases seem to be a must, but it works great for Roon and when you need a bigger screen, just open it up.

I have already had a couple of iPhone owning friends contact me to say they are tempted to upgrade.

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we’ll see it next September :rofl:

It’s too fiddly for my bad hands I’d drop it !!

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That’s why cases are a must, so easy to drop when used fully open

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It is interesting to note that in the UK, the new phones use Apple’s new C2 modem instead of Qualcomm parts. In the US, Apple seems to be sticking with Qualcomm for the ProMax according to reports.

I need a rubber phone :winking_face_with_tongue:

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Does that mean we are being used as a test bed for future changes just as Apple used the US market to test esim only devices :thinking:

Some sites are reporting it’s only the Pro Max that has the Qualcomm chip, and the standard Pro and Duo may both use Apple’s C2.

eSIM has become standard, I don’t recall the last time I had the legacy physical SIM card.

It is interesting that Duo is missing some features compared to what the iPhone 18 Pro has, you might want to google iPhone Duo is Missing These 10 iPhone 18 Pro Features.

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Not soon because I got the 17 Pro Max last year and it will last a good while. But I like the idea of the large screen and being able to use the Apple pencil with it.

I’m hoping there are no hardware issues especially with the hinge (seems unlikely), but I’d also wait for longer term reviews.

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Reminds me of the MS Surface Duo, except that Duo’s couldn’t span Roon across the split screens, one of the main reasons I didn’t keep that Duo.

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Alas, poor Surface Duo - I knew thee well…

And Roon does span Roon across the split screen - but it changes the orientation to Portrait mode, so you have to turn the Duo 90° (then the split is horizontal)…

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I tried the Surface Duo, not the Duo 2.

BTW, the screenshot is not from either Surface Duo or Duo 2, correct? This one has no gap in the middle while both versions of Surface Duo have a gap that separate it into two screens.

Anyway, I used to use Google Nexus 7 gen 2 to room Roon Remote. It was great until it got too old. I also used Fire HD 8 Plus to run Roon Remote with decent results.

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The screenshot IS from my Surface Duo 2 - I just made it this morning. And of course there’s no gap in the screenshot - the display simply spans two physical screens on the Duo.

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It is interesting to see how Roon UI works on the new iPhone Duo?

Cool! Wish I tried the Duo 2! Unfortunately, MS also abandoned it.:disappointed_face:

As to the Apple Duo, like the Galaxy folds, the prices are astronomical for phones. But it surely is nice to have one.

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I think it’s the other way around. Apple seems very confident in the C-series modems and especially the C2. The real questions is “why are they sticking with Qualcomm for some models / regions?” The speculation is that they committed to the frenemy relationship with Qualcomm through at least 2027 and that means they need to keep buying their modems for at least some devices through then.

It’s interesting reading some of what Apple is trying to do with the C2 - In the old days, Jobs used to say “Apple is the only company that makes the whole widget”. That’s the thinking behind the C2 - they’re trying to push a portion of power management, security/privacy, user-facing features into the C2 that a modem can only implement if it’s collaborating closely with the OS. It’s pretty cool. Took them a while to actually get something working, but it’s starting to pay off.

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An interesting take, I find it hard to disagree, it will give them an even highter level of control over the whole system.

Do you think that the C2 will roll out worldwide in 2027 across all devices and regions?

Does that preclude SIM slots which are still a thing in Europe and it doesn’t seem anyone has been prepared to have first mover advantage by removing it.

As far as I know, Apple isn’t disclosing future plans. It’s pretty clear that their intent, though, is to incrementally move to using their own modems.

eSIM only and modem hardware seem orthogonal - there are C2 devices that support physical nano SIM.

The move to pure eSIM was mostly a non-event in the US. Life is a little easier when you never have to hunt for a SIM removal tool or even think about physical SIMS :slight_smile:

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