Apple Music HiFi tier to be announced

Well said. This reminds me of getting more whites on white sheets with each passing year in detergent industry :slight_smile:

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I am still having to remind people that they need stereo equipment to seriously listen to music. One Sonos will not be enough :slight_smile: At least, those little headphones are stereo.

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AirPods Max are meant to sound superb.

I’m sure with better-than-AAC streams from Apple, they should sound even better.

I’m believing that better technology is already there, just not enabled yet. So hopefully it will make another big improvement for those that have invested in them. Though I imagine most are already pleased with their investment

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You seem to be forgetting that airplay is restricted to a certain make of device. The world is more than iOS and Mac OS of which I use neither for home use, nor do lots of people. Apple may have an upper hand in the US but that’s it. Also airplay is hardly the best transport not exactly bit perfect and no way of hires.

There is Apple Music for Android…

With a Cambridge Audio CXN V2 (one example) just Chromecast from your phone to the CXN…

You don’t get it do you. I already covered this. Chromecast is not that we’ll supported on hifi its gaining ground but not really there and it struggles with gapless. Connect works without either.

Lol what a rude reply

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Apologies wasn’t meaning to be rude badly written response in a hurry whilst preparing lunch. What I am trying to get at is that until they open it up so its integrated properly like Tidal, Qobuz, Spotify etc its not really a viable platform unless your already in the apple eco system. There really isn’t that many hifi devices that support Chromecast out there. Newer models seem to be adding it but not that many more the lifestyle choice ones. I don’t dismiss then adding it but it’s appeal will be limited outside of apple’s eco system. I honestly don’t know one person who uses it that’s not an Apple user.

Good to see they added gapless but it’s taken a long time. :slight_smile:

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Knowing Apple, I don’t think there will be a ā€˜cat in hell’s chance’ of Roon integration with Apple Music, like we have with Qobuz & Tidal.

Apple will insist that you use their own iOS/Android platforms, and Airplay 2 to a compatible device.

Here’s a nice little endpoint, which is both Roon-Ready and Apple Airplay 2:

https://www.primare.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/NP5-Prisma-User-Guide.pdf

Couple that combo with ā€˜Apple Digital Masters’, and it could potentially trounce the competition completely:

I don’t particularly like using the Apple Music app. But if/when Apple introduces Hi-Fi streaming, it could pose a potential threat to Roon…

If I get it at no additional cost, I have no problem discovering new music or streaming my mobile playlists to my Aries G2 via Airplay.

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I think it far more likely that Apple will develop a very Roonesque platform of their own.

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They already have the basics in their own Music app.

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And, a Toyota Yaris has the basics of a Bugatti Veyron. But the Veyron is a much more powerful machine.

I wouldn’t underestimate Apple. Many have, and many have regretted it.

Couple an iPad running the Apple Music app, with an Apple Music ā€˜Hi-Fi’ subscription, Airplay 2 to a PRIMARE NP5 with full 24/192 support, and you have a compelling case of simplicity, reliability and quality.

This little arrangement could make Roon, Tidal and Qobuz completely obsolete in a stroke…

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IMHO, Apple Music currently is a toy compared to Roon, and I have extensive experience with it. Heck, when I had Apple Music, I had a library in excess of 800k tracks, but was dissatisfied with it. I tried JRivers, Audivana, and everything else, until God led me to Roon, which, for me anyway, was light years ahead of anything else (well, maybe God wasn’t involved, but it sure was a divine experience). After a week of using Roon, I ditched Apple Music, all the library, and anything else Apple Music related. And, I am far more musically happy for it. Even if I were to get Apple HiFi for free, I would not do it unless they can give me a Roon-like experience. The Apple Music app make that impossible.

I don’t like the Apple Music app either Neil. And as a happy lifetime member of Roon, I’m committed to it.

My point is, for new users/streamers the Apple option may be (depending on what they release?) very seductive.

No need for a Roon core or Roon subscriptions. Just an iPad and something to stream to…

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I’m warming to streaming, much less maintenance, no backup concerns, only advantages really. The question is, who gets my money? It’s not going to be anyone offering less than lossless, Spotify, Amazon, Apple must have figured that out too.

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None of them cared until Amazon Music HD made the first move.

That changed the game and made the 300 million pound gorilla angry :triumph:

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I think the $2tn dollar gorilla wants to be top-of-the-tree: