I mean without headphones. Who wants to pair headphones with an Apple TV device and listen that way (assuming the Apple TV is connected to a “real” Atmos system).
Read the above screenshots closer - with an Atmos AVR…
Same way Atmos already works with videos on Apple TV 4K.
Will Tidal be dropping their prices for their higher tier? To be continued…
Ok I see it now “audiovisual” receiver.
Yes of course.
It’s been there for Tidal on Apple TV 4K since last year !
So hardly a shock Apple Music would support it too.
With Apple Music on board, I expect a massive jump in new Atmos music content this year.
Great! But! Tidal does not work in many countries (Russia)! Apple is everywhere!
Agreed and due to the massive difference in subscriber numbers, this is one reason I expect a huge jump in Atmos music content this year !
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This is definitely not correct - I use an app called Infuse on my AppleTV 4K and can watch movies with DT-HD Master Audio with bitrates of 48 kHz, 96 kHz, 192 kHz etc.
Suffice to say, the AppleTV will be able to stream the highest quality they’re going to offer.
[UPDATE - please see below, the higher above 48Khz not currently supported]
Are you sure?
They say:
Are higher sample rates (96KHz, 192KHz, etc…) supported?
The Apple TV does not currently support these sample rates, but if these are played in Infuse they will automatically be converted to 48KHz. Note: Most commercially available Dolby and DTS audio tracks (including TrueHD and DTS-HD MA) are encoded at 48KHz.
Oops, my bad, I think it used to support passthrough audio prior to one of the updates. I suspect this will come back sometime after June and the WWDC.
So, right now it can definitely support 24-48.
Apologies for the misinformation!
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Apple Music doesn’t just work on headphones. This really applies to people who have network streamers.
As noted earlier in the thread, Bluesound have suggested that Airplay 2 will be removing the limit and allowing high res streaming to streamers. So if you only listen on speakers, you would still be covered.
That hasn’t been fully confirmed but if it is, that would be a big deal I would imagine.
Again, Airplay does allow you to control from your chair and stream to your hifi system.
Spatial audio as I said varies greatly and I wasn’t suggesting it was for sure going to be a game changer. Even assuming it isn’t as you say, Apple still offers High Res streaming which matches Qobuz, my initial concern that started this thread. Outside of Roon users (me, you and everyone else here), Apple has essentially destroyed Qobuz and Tidals growth. Why would any regular user switch to those services now ? (Again, who don’t use Roon).
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I still don’t want to stream music from my phone which is what Airplay does. It just sucks up battery life on a phone that can barely last a day without having to recharge.
Spotify Connect is Spotify’s standout feature and why i will likely subscribe to its HD service. Its music discovery is also better than Apple’s
So I will have Qobuz for Roon and Spotify for everything else.
Yup I think most people here feel that way although there is an expectation that Apple will likely change the way airplay works to essentially be a high res version of Spotify connect.
Personally I use my iPad for Roon as a remote so Airplay draining battery in my use case doesn’t matter.
Because they offer real hi-res, that you can buy and own at a discounted price.
See the 2 screenshots at this example on Qobuz:
The tech is here already with HomePods: when played to from an iPhone, they autoswitch to Apple Music directly, handling the iPhone requests like a remote (not unlike Spotify Connect). Apple TV can do the same.
The ‘streaming from the iPhone’ paradigm is not that bad in practice though – I regularly stream 8-12 hours a day from my iPhone over Airplay with ample battery to spare. Screen use eats battery way more than audio streaming in low energy mode (phone locked, screen off). Energy efficient technology has come a long way over the last few years.
Even if they change AirPlay 2 to allow hires it won’t solve the problem of battery drain on the phone. And don’t think you can send AirPlay from your phone to your computer without some workaround.
With Spotify, anywhere you have the Spotify program open, it sees as a Spotify Connection and can hand off. It is no longer draining the phone but playing directly on that computer, streamer, tv. Don’t think Apple has plans to do something like this. Only issue is Spotify Connect can only do 16/44 at the moment but Spotify hifi will offer that level as well, at least at first. Not sure if they’ll need to roll out a hires offering to keeps up with other services.
Yup, my comment was about users outside of Roon and similar communities.
Qobuz ultimately has to increase their subscribers in order to keep their investors happy. Users outside of those communities don’t buy music and so Apple has capped their growth. Everyone in this forum and other HiFi communities will likely prefer Qobuz but that doesn’t change the fact that broadly speaking, they won’t be able to grow significantly.
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Yes you can use Qobuz without Roon… did you see the 2 screenshots in my example?
As Rene pointed out, they already do this on HomePod and Apple TV. Airplay will be converted to do this with all airplay devices.