B225 Offline UI

iPhone 15 Pro Max, iOS 17.2.1

Hello,

First off, great job fixing downloads! they were nicely performant for me. I would like to comment however on the UI experience when offline. As an end user when traveling or otherwise away from my Roon Server (not exposed to the internet), honestly I don’t really care if my Roon Server is available or not on my phone. I always want to use the usual library UI in the same way. Unless I am missing something it seems like I have to click downloads to play my music. And the UI is different there. I only see albums I have downloaded and the sort options are not the ones I care about when listening.

It would be highly desirable to have the UI and workflow be the same as possible and minimally intrusive when away from the core. Am I doing something wrong?

Also, is there a way to mark all of my content as “Keep in Downloads”? My entire catalog fits on my phone and I want to load everything, AND automatically download anything I add to my collection on Core without having to mark it for download. Of course this should all happen within the storage allocation limit that I have set.

Thanks and great job Roon Team!

Hey, thanks for the feedback and taking the time to post. Happy downloads are feeling better!

Even in offline mode, you can use the app normally. The navigation is the same and you should be able to go to any page as usual, some of it just might not load bc you don’t have connection. If you want to see your downloads (which will be the only stuff that’s playable) just filter by pressing on the downloads icon. Hope this helps :slight_smile:

Also, is there a way to mark all of my content as “Keep in Downloads”? My entire catalog fits on my phone and I want to load everything, AND automatically download anything I add to my collection on Core without having to mark it for download. Of course this should all happen within the storage allocation limit that I have set.

Not now, but this is a good idea. I’ll jot it down as a future improvement.

If I may add to this, I’m not quite sure anymore what the purpose of the offline switch in ARC is.

In the past, I think part of it was to reduce the otherwise excessive „you are offline“ warnings, but as far as I can tell this got much better even if the ARC offline switch is not engaged.

According to the help, its only function now seems to be to turn off online content, is this correct?

I suppose it is still needed/helpful to have this as an explicit setting, e.g., if a user wants to use ARC permanently offline.

But could this be automated more, based on the phone state? Maybe not if the phone has intermittently no network, but if Airplane Mode is enabled on the phone (or wifi / cellular data off), could ARC not detect this and automatically engage its offline mode? Or at least offer this in a popup so that the user doesn’t have to know about it and hunt for it in ARC‘s settings?

Currently it feels a bit weird having to go to two places, like first engage Airplane Mode and then go offline in ARC settings.

In the past, I think part of it was to reduce the otherwise excessive „you are offline“ warnings, but as far as I can tell this got much better even if the ARC offline switch is not engaged.

If I remember correctly it was also because, without this mode, listening to downloaded music without having a connection, ARC still tried to contact the core and this could affect the battery/data consumed

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Thanks. This kind of also seems solvable without a manual switch, unless I am being too naive, and I very well could be :slight_smile:

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