Can anyone confirm whether the Titan ships with one 8GB RAM chip installed?
If so, when upgrading will results improve if using both the dual slots? I also have a large library, and am debating whether to use one 32GB chip or two 16 GBs.
Jon,
The Titan ships without any RAM installed. You are able to buy whichever you want - provided it’s compatible.
Are you sure it ships with no RAM installed?
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If it did ship without RAM it would be an odd appliance. Like shipping an oven with no heating element 
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I recently traded my Rev B for a Titan (in the US).
(That went extremely well, BTW; Roon staff were excellence itself!)
I was told that there’d be no RAM (for music storage, that is; the smaller SSD to contain RoonOS is there in all cases).
Certainly you (seem to) have no choice of how much installed RAM on this page in the store. Or, at least I can still see nowhere to select 4 or 8 GB etc.
But maybe my case was special.
I think you’re confusing RAM and storage.
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It won’t boot without at least one SO-DIMM RAM module installed. Two matched 4GB modules would be better then one 8GB because Intel chipsets generally support dual channel memory, which can improve performance.
I have no idea which configuration that Titan ships with. I don’t believe it ships with internal SATA SSD storage for local music files, but have occasionally seen Nucleus bundles that included internal storage in the past.
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Definitely ships with RAM installed. I removed two modules and replaced with two X 16GB to resolve Titan’s problems with my large library.
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Jon,
Can you see somewhere in the RoonLabs store website where you can select storage?
My apologies if I didn’t help, or obscured things 
My impression was that the OP wanted to know how much RAM/Storage for music files there would be if they bought a Titan.
I haven’t seen anywhere that 4, 8 etc GB of music file storage is advertised or offered for choice.
I’m sorry if I’m missing something!
That would explain that posters like @SukieInTheGraveyard may have seen and be thinking about, and what @Jon_Lewis experienced, wouldn’t it?
You’re missing the absolute difference between RAM and storage (HDD or SSD). The Titan ships with RAM because it wouldn’t work without RAM.
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My apologies. Of course - as I said - there is an SSD module, soldered into/onto the module, I believe; otherwise - as @David_Snyder said, it wouldn’t boot.
My assumption was that the OP wanted to know how much storage they would get for their music files out of the box.
The OP enquired about RAM, not storage.
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There’s an empty slot for an SSD if you choose to install one.
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@SukieInTheGraveyard, I don’t want to pursue this any more than necessary.
If either:
- I misread the OP and they really aren’t interested in how much SSD/HDD storage comes with the Nucleus Titan on which they can store their music files; but are instead interested in the SO-DIMM RAM module which David mentions, and/or
- there is a source of which I have until now been unaware for RoonLabs Nucleus Titans which do come with RAM/Storage onto which they can load music files,
then - again, I apologise and would welcome being educated with a link to such an option for prospective purchasers of Titans. And apologise again for not having been able to find it 
Indeed, Jon. But if you chose not to install either SSD or HDD storage, what use would the Titan be for Roon?
I’m only continue this in the interests of trying to help the OP, who has a large library which - presumably - they want to load into the Titan.
And, Yes, to be clear (thanks, @SukieInTheGraveyard, that’s not onto RAM).
Thanks to David, they now know that two 16 TBs (the OP mentioned GB) would be preferable. But to the best of my knowledge (and I’m happy to be corrected) RoonLabs does not sell a Titan which comes with storage (as opposed to RAM, which is irrelevant) pre-installed.
I can also add, FWIW, that the process of transferring SSD storage (in my case a 4 TB Western Digital module) is pretty easy. Although the 12 or 16 little grub screws seem to be made of a relatively soft metal; so be careful with that crosshead screwdriver. Good luck!
Incorrect.
All Nucleus models require an NVMe SSD, which they boot from, and one or two SO-DIMM memory modules into which to load the kernel. Without both of these, you don’t have a server; you have a doorstop.
I’ve never seen one with the NVMe SSD soldered to the motherboard. These typically occupy an M.2 PCIe slot and are secured with one small screw. The SO-DIMM RAM modules are held in by clips. No solder.
But the main point is that a boot drive and RAM are essential and always included.
The 2.5 inch SATA SSD for music storage is optional.
It’s likely that the OP was asking about the RAM configuration. Not the boot drive or optional intrrnal music storage.
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Definitely. Thanks. Yes.
My intention was to help the OP with advice on how much storage for music files comes out of the Titan’s box.
The OP asked about an ‘8GB RAM chip’.
Maybe we should have steered them away from the two mis-statements at the start.
But I agree, my first post was - at best - ambiguous in continuing to use that terminology. For that I apologise.
I definitely grovel if the OP is interested not in installing music files on the Titan, but in tinkering with the RAM part of the Titan :-).
The OP’s terminology is correct. Yours has not been correct so far, but we are all learning.
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