Hi @TheGuy,
Understood and it will be interesting to see what you discover with Roon.
However, as everything thus far is sans-Roon a separate topic is more appropriate.
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Can you please explain the difference between these spectra / real-time charts?
Yellow line is real time freqs, red line is avg max hold. And spectra is basically the same than red line but spread in time. So they’re multiple max holds put together to form the time line. Not sure how to explain it better. What matters in this case is the red line that shows the compression more clearly than the spectrum.
Edit: you want me to explain the difference between both charts? If so the tidal one shows how they push lower intensity freqs up compressing the sound, the whole thing is more compressed (evened out) you can tell it clearly with the lower freqs how they bump them and tend to form a horizontal line. That’s what makes tidal sound a bit more loose and less complex but more powerful than qobuz app which sounds more hifi of course, detailed, defined with more air.
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this mirrors my highly subjective, unscientific, impressions of both services, dating back to the days of LMS, when using Roon, or either app via CarPlay.
I have not done a Connect comparison, but now that I have a system that supports both Qobuz and Tidal Connect, perhaps it’s time.
I’ve had Tidal Connect for a while, but seldom use it. The few times I have I’ve found the sound to be sufficiently irritating to make me want to turn it off.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
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It is also my impression that music via Tidal sounds more compressed, louder, than via Qobuz. Means, like the loudness controller/knob on your amplifier (if there is one) is set higher. Maybe this is based on Jay-Z (owner of TIDAL) background as a Rap musician. While Qobuz is more classical and jazz music orientated.
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Panther Bidco (Jay-Z) sold to Bloc a few years ago.
As someone whi has eclectic music tastes, there is nothing between Qobuz and TIDAL when it comes to catalogue or playback (when comparing like-for-like.)
What do you mean by there is nothing between the two services? One is clearly better or there’s no real difference in catalog/playback?
There’s no difference between the two. They’re a commodity, and I switch between the two regularly for best pricing.
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Interesting… when using Lyrion it shows the bit rate for each. Qobuz is always higher for the same resolution.
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Bit rate is the transmission rate and isn’t directly related to bit depth, which is used, along with bit depth, for lossless formats. Roon will extract the stream from FLAC and send PCM via RAAT to the DAC. So, bit rate if of little importance.
Not sure what Lyrion does, but Red Book would have a bit rate of just over 1400 kbps.