Do people Cancel Their Tidal (or Qobuz) Accounts now that Spotify has Lossless?

Hey everyone!. I’m debating whether to cancel my Tidal account and use Roon for all my local files. What are your thoughts? What’s everyone else doing? Thanks!

Everyone does what they prefer. This is a question only you can answer for yourself

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I am on Roon for life but I wonder how to access Spotify from Roon since it is not listed among the other streaming services.

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You are correct. I guess I need a little push, lol.

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You can’t because Spotify told Roon Labs that they aren’t interested in integration

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I despise Spotify and would not take it for free. Their treatment of artist is deplorable.

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They also have the focus feature as well as lossless.

In your screenshots I only see a selection of genres, moods, and activities. That’s not an equivalent of Roon focus.

I have a question to @Rubi_Hayim: What is this thread about? In the thread title it asks about moving from Tidal to Spotify, while in your opening post Spotify is not mentioned at all and it reads as if you were about to give up on streaming and move to local files only in Roon. I’m confused

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That is true, I guess it depends on what you use focus for.

I use it primarily for genre. Mood doesn’t exist in Roon but yes, if you use the other focus elements it may not do everything.

It does function in the same way and I actually find it more useful (I can filter on artists, playlists and albums in one view which I can’t do in Roon).

So I don’t think Roons focus feature bests it in all cases, if you need deeper metadata filters like recording artists then sure Roon is better. If you want to focus across objects or use things like mood, Spotify works better.

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Yeah, I do stuff like performer XY and YZ from 1970 to 1980, and these things.

I also fled the streaming apps because the binary yes/no for favorites is completely unworkable for me, as it forces you to make every album you want to remember a favorite (and then leaves no option to mark actual favorites). I guess this hasn’t changed?

I have a Tidal family plan and when I told my son about Spotify lossless he wanted to switch immediately. I said if we switch I would prefer Qobuz because of the Roon integration and the Sublime offer. He is not keen about Qobuz and so we are still on Tidal.

–MD

It depends. There are workarounds but generally, yes streaming apps assume a favourite is a the only thing you need.

You can use downloads or playlists to mark favourites on favourites but it’s still a workaround, there is no tagging as an example.

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No, keeping Tidal as this can integrate with Roon.
(Would also have stayed on Tidal or Qobuz if Spotify ever was integrated in Roon)

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I apologize if my question was confusing. I have subscriptions to both Tidal and Spotify. I’m curious if people are canceling their Tidal accounts now that Spotify offers lossless audio. While Tidal integrates with Roon, I find that Spotify has better playlists and song recommendations. I’m interested in hearing what the community thinks about this. hearing what the community thinks about this.

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I’m sticking with Tidal / qobuz, though given Spotify seems to be compelling for lossless fans the churn could end up overwhelming.

I’d rather try to send the artist something when streaming, and qobuz’s return to rights-holders (of which the artist gets a fraction) is five- or six- times-per stream that of Spotify. If that’s still a fraction of nothing it is a shame, but I’m not ready for $30+ albums.

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I am sticking with Qobuz not only for streaming but their download store which I purchase from regularly. I still buy CD’s and Vinyl as well and use Roon for playback.

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What do you mean by “…$30+ albums”

Good question. Vinyl is at that rate now for frontline. I suspect that were it not for the streaming money downloads would need to be at that rate, too, but I’m sure streaming money will be around for some time (given that Spotify is finally in the black).

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In Spotify with advance search you can specify the years range for their whole library along with filtering by genre and record label. I was always hoping roon would allow its focus features to work on the streaming service library not just my own that I’ve already favorited. To be able to find albums I don’t already have yet. At least with Spotify I can do this. I don’t have the filter feature yet that those screenshots show.

I do get what your saying about everything being your favorite, so then how do you see your actual favorites.

Until Roon integrates Spotify (Hell freezing over) a move to Spotify from Tidal is a totally retrograde step. I pay peanuts for Tidal (<$4 / month) why should I stop supporting them. Add to that there is no Hi Res support (96/192) on Spotify.

Did you watch the GoldenEar video where he shows that the Spotify stream is in fact not lossless

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