Do You Have A Roon Fallback Plan - Options / Alternatives

Strike that off the plan. Thanks.

I just relaunched hqplayer on Mac, denyed connections out until quit with littlesnitch to signalyst.com and signalyst.eu

It did find my naa and allowed me to play local files. So I guess it does work. The iOS app doesn’t seem to work though.

So it’s kind of a fallback solution. It works better than Roon does without an internet connectivity.

You should take the tour of National Audio! :grin::vhs: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/this-missouri-company-still-makes-cassette-tapes-and-they-are-flying-off-factory-floor-180979417/

Are there any alternatives that detach file metadata like Roon does? Saving information to an internal database is essential for my setup because I can’t modify the files.

I’m not sure because it’s opposite of what I’d want. J River may have that but it doesn’t integrate any streaming service.

I have a Mac Mini (late 2014) I use as a backup server for my Nucleus and also to “keep tabs” on the Nucleus when away from home in case it needs a reboot or reconnect to Tidal or Qobuz. I just added a much faster 1TB SSD to the Mac Mini so it is much faster and more responsive.

The Mac Mini already has Roon and Apple Music installed and I just installed Audirvana 3.5. It’s playing to my main system over UPnP to a RPi4, Meridian Prime, Denon AVR-2805, and Pioneer HPM-60 speakers.

This could be another fallback if I lost internet. I would use my Verizon Hotspot data to stream from Tidal and/or Qobuz.

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I guess some of us got to put our “fallback plans” into action with the recent Qobuz issue. While I could have just played Tidal on Roon, I chose to play Qobuz on Audirvana 3.5 and all worked well. Worked so well, I just purchased a year of Audirvana Studio. I have used it in the past, but not recently.

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Having been through a few responsiveness issues with Roon (and dropped ARC completely) over the last 18 months I have built a decent fallback solution that now gets used most day’s.

First off I removed TIDAL and Qobuz from my Roon Library (not an option for you I know Jim) but I have almost 80K tracks of music I enjoy listening to and things have been more reliable since I dropped them. (Hopefully as a result of this recent debacle, they will invest more effort in fixing some of the long standing complaints about metadata updates going wild and stopping Room being usable)

I then put to use 4 spare Raspberry Pi 4’s I owned to good use running Ropieee and having moved from Rock to DietPi I was all good as I just selected to install Plex server and LMS, both of which work nicely with Ropieee.
Later on I saw something about AssetUPNP and BubbleUPNP both of which I used to use in my pre Roon day’s. I bought a new license for AssetUPNP and that is also now running on my DietPi server.

I still use Roon pretty much every day, but I also use the others and actually enjoy browsing my library using the different methods.
Last.fm has become the go-to list of what I have been listening to now as they are all linked up to it.

I haven’t felt the need to try Audiavana yet, but it must only be a matter of time :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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Did the same :slight_smile: And than bought JPLAY app. The design looks similar to Roon.

I don’t understand the hype about that app - it is just an “transporter”

Torben

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Funnily enough I downloaded it to my iPad after reading something you wrote about it. It’s quite pleasant to use and did work nicely with HQPlayer as well in my testing. I don’t feel like it’s worth the annual cost for me, but could well be for some. I already have enough backup plans :smile_cat:
(I have a Google task to cancel the subscription on Monday so maybe I should try it again before then)

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It works fine - home and remote. I have VPN WireGuard installed on my router so no need for port-forward (same goes for ARC).

The nice thing about JPLAY is the integration with Qobuz. That you don’t have with Plex.

Time will show :slight_smile:

Torben

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Anybody running Audirvana Studio 3.0 beta? I have it installed on my Dell, MacMini, and NucBox G5. I still question that it sounds any better than Roon. I much prefer how Roon works but might keep Audirvana as my “Roon fallback” solution. I got rid of Apple Music long ago when Verizon started charging for it.

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I have been trying for four days to get Audirvana Studio beta to work properly with their convolution protocol. Try as I might, I can’t get it to work without stops and repeating over and over the last second or two of each and every track. I’ve tried my Mojo 2 and Meridian Prime with Audirvana on my Dell, MacMini, and Nucbox G5.

That said, Audirvana works well otherwise and sounds very good, so I am going to let it renew 1/25 for another year as my Roon fallback. I just won’t use their convolution as I don’t use it in Roon either. But, at least it works well in Roon.

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Audirvana has resolved the looping issue with their Audirvana Studio 3.0 beta version. It seems to work well and sounds very good. I recommend Audirvana Studio if you want a Roon fallback music player.

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Spoted this late

I tried AS 3 beta , it just looks like they are playing catch up with EQ and PEQ

They still have major sorting problems which are not addressed . I really screw up classical music.

For example , take an Artists like Alfred Brendel who recorded a lot of music in collaboration with chamber ensembles. Each separate enemble is shown as a separate artist in the Artist view eg Alfred Brendel, Ensemble 1, Alfred Brendel,Ensemble 2 etc. So nowhere can you see an artist and all his collaborations in one list

The Alfred Brendel,Ensemble 2 are sorted under A , the solo recordings are sorted as Brendel, Alfred under B so in different areas of the Artist list
This is a kiss of death for me

I don’t have any of those issues because I don’t listen to classical music. The Audirvana Studio user interface is somewhat of a mess, but works ok for me. The sound of this update using convolution filters is phenomenal IMHO. I use Audirvana for headphone listening and Roon in my listening room with speakers and just recently for 5.1 listening with my Bose surround system.

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The current DNS situation is an example of why I posted this recommendation almost 4 years ago. Nothing is foolproof so it’s always good to have an alternative for when something goes wrong.

Also, never do automatic updates…

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