Strike that off the plan. Thanks.
I just relaunched hqplayer on Mac, denyed connections out until quit with littlesnitch to signalyst.com and signalyst.eu
It did find my naa and allowed me to play local files. So I guess it does work. The iOS app doesn’t seem to work though.
So it’s kind of a fallback solution. It works better than Roon does without an internet connectivity.
You should take the tour of National Audio! ![]()
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/this-missouri-company-still-makes-cassette-tapes-and-they-are-flying-off-factory-floor-180979417/
Are there any alternatives that detach file metadata like Roon does? Saving information to an internal database is essential for my setup because I can’t modify the files.
I’m not sure because it’s opposite of what I’d want. J River may have that but it doesn’t integrate any streaming service.
I have a Mac Mini (late 2014) I use as a backup server for my Nucleus and also to “keep tabs” on the Nucleus when away from home in case it needs a reboot or reconnect to Tidal or Qobuz. I just added a much faster 1TB SSD to the Mac Mini so it is much faster and more responsive.
The Mac Mini already has Roon and Apple Music installed and I just installed Audirvana 3.5. It’s playing to my main system over UPnP to a RPi4, Meridian Prime, Denon AVR-2805, and Pioneer HPM-60 speakers.
This could be another fallback if I lost internet. I would use my Verizon Hotspot data to stream from Tidal and/or Qobuz.
I guess some of us got to put our “fallback plans” into action with the recent Qobuz issue. While I could have just played Tidal on Roon, I chose to play Qobuz on Audirvana 3.5 and all worked well. Worked so well, I just purchased a year of Audirvana Studio. I have used it in the past, but not recently.
Having been through a few responsiveness issues with Roon (and dropped ARC completely) over the last 18 months I have built a decent fallback solution that now gets used most day’s.
First off I removed TIDAL and Qobuz from my Roon Library (not an option for you I know Jim) but I have almost 80K tracks of music I enjoy listening to and things have been more reliable since I dropped them. (Hopefully as a result of this recent debacle, they will invest more effort in fixing some of the long standing complaints about metadata updates going wild and stopping Room being usable)
I then put to use 4 spare Raspberry Pi 4’s I owned to good use running Ropieee and having moved from Rock to DietPi I was all good as I just selected to install Plex server and LMS, both of which work nicely with Ropieee.
Later on I saw something about AssetUPNP and BubbleUPNP both of which I used to use in my pre Roon day’s. I bought a new license for AssetUPNP and that is also now running on my DietPi server.
I still use Roon pretty much every day, but I also use the others and actually enjoy browsing my library using the different methods.
Last.fm has become the go-to list of what I have been listening to now as they are all linked up to it.
I haven’t felt the need to try Audiavana yet, but it must only be a matter of time ![]()
Did the same
And than bought JPLAY app. The design looks similar to Roon.
I don’t understand the hype about that app - it is just an “transporter”
Torben
Funnily enough I downloaded it to my iPad after reading something you wrote about it. It’s quite pleasant to use and did work nicely with HQPlayer as well in my testing. I don’t feel like it’s worth the annual cost for me, but could well be for some. I already have enough backup plans ![]()
(I have a Google task to cancel the subscription on Monday so maybe I should try it again before then)
It works fine - home and remote. I have VPN WireGuard installed on my router so no need for port-forward (same goes for ARC).
The nice thing about JPLAY is the integration with Qobuz. That you don’t have with Plex.
Time will show ![]()
Torben
Anybody running Audirvana Studio 3.0 beta? I have it installed on my Dell, MacMini, and NucBox G5. I still question that it sounds any better than Roon. I much prefer how Roon works but might keep Audirvana as my “Roon fallback” solution. I got rid of Apple Music long ago when Verizon started charging for it.
I have been trying for four days to get Audirvana Studio beta to work properly with their convolution protocol. Try as I might, I can’t get it to work without stops and repeating over and over the last second or two of each and every track. I’ve tried my Mojo 2 and Meridian Prime with Audirvana on my Dell, MacMini, and Nucbox G5.
That said, Audirvana works well otherwise and sounds very good, so I am going to let it renew 1/25 for another year as my Roon fallback. I just won’t use their convolution as I don’t use it in Roon either. But, at least it works well in Roon.
Audirvana has resolved the looping issue with their Audirvana Studio 3.0 beta version. It seems to work well and sounds very good. I recommend Audirvana Studio if you want a Roon fallback music player.
Spoted this late
I tried AS 3 beta , it just looks like they are playing catch up with EQ and PEQ
They still have major sorting problems which are not addressed . I really screw up classical music.
For example , take an Artists like Alfred Brendel who recorded a lot of music in collaboration with chamber ensembles. Each separate enemble is shown as a separate artist in the Artist view eg Alfred Brendel, Ensemble 1, Alfred Brendel,Ensemble 2 etc. So nowhere can you see an artist and all his collaborations in one list
The Alfred Brendel,Ensemble 2 are sorted under A , the solo recordings are sorted as Brendel, Alfred under B so in different areas of the Artist list
This is a kiss of death for me
I don’t have any of those issues because I don’t listen to classical music. The Audirvana Studio user interface is somewhat of a mess, but works ok for me. The sound of this update using convolution filters is phenomenal IMHO. I use Audirvana for headphone listening and Roon in my listening room with speakers and just recently for 5.1 listening with my Bose surround system.


